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2009/05/29 18:57:17
Subject: Iä!Iä! Cthulhu Ftaghn! (or what is plaguezombie working on.....)+a alien tribute
I recently bought The Necronomicon (commemorative Edition) Its about 20 pounds and contains Lovecrafts best liked/known stories... it looks just like a black bible and has gold lettering and a picture of chtulhu on it... its awesome i.m.h.o. you should really buy it.
A cheap and nice looking way to make tridents is by using a empire militia arm with hellbard and some spikes from a marauder banner... as such:
I like the straight spikes the best...
2009/05/29 19:13:55
Subject: Re:Iä!Iä! Cthulhu Ftaghn! (or what is plaguezombie working on.....)+a alien tribute
Not many people know of Cthulu but the ones that do, LOVE HIM! Don't screw this up!
Just joking (well, about the screwing it up part), looks really cool! Love it so far! Can't wait to see more.
I hope you try some Mi-go at some point! Don't get the "Innsmouth look" staying up too late working on this stuff.
Deff Dread red Edition wrote:Thanks like I said sorry I am not so familiar with his worrk,yet reading the Wiki articles I think I would like to read his books.
The funny thing about H.P. Lovecraft is, technically speaking, he is a terrible writer. His stories are full of adjectives ending in -ly and the like. But as for the pictures he paints and the Mythos he created? His style and imagination far outweigh his literary shortcomings! I am a fan myself although everything I have been taught in college goes against his style. It just goes to show you, in storytelling, there is no right way.
...And yes, hard K - thoo - loo is accepted but I hear many people also say K - T - Hoo - Loo. For anyone else interested in H.P. Lovecraft, there is a websight... http://www.cthulhulives.org/toc.html These people also made The Call of Cthulu into a low budget silent movie a few years back (available on DVD) and it is very true to the story and quite good. They are currently trying to produce The Whisperer in the Darkness. I encourage any fan to check them out!
Sorry, I won't hijack the OP any longer.
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2009/06/09 13:31:47
Subject: Re:Iä!Iä! Cthulhu Ftaghn! (or what is plaguezombie working on.....)+a alien tribute
And yet I saw them in a limitless stream - flopping, hopping, croaking, bleating - urging inhumanly through the spectral moonlight in a grotesque, malignant saraband of fantastic nightmare. And some of them had tall tiaras of that nameless whitish-gold metal ... and some were strangely robed ... and one, who led the way, was clad in a ghoulishly humped black coat and striped trousers, and had a man's felt hat perched on the shapeless thing that answered for a head.
I think their predominant colour was a greyish-green, though they had white bellies. They were mostly shiny and slippery, but the ridges of their backs were scaly. Their forms vaguely suggested the anthropoid, while their heads were the heads of fish, with prodigious bulging eyes that never closed. At the sides of their necks were palpitating gills, and their long paws were webbed. They hopped irregularly, sometimes on two legs and sometimes on four. I was somehow glad that they had no more than four limbs. Their croaking, baying voices, clearly articulate speech, held all the dark shades of expression which their staring faces lacked.
I was inspired from the model I want to use for father Dagon, and the idea of Shark heads from scarecrow. I tried to modell Shark fins. I like them more than the last version, what do you think? I also have to try to give some of them robes, ctlothes and tiaras. My version look more like lizards but i trie to give them a grey colour with silver dandruff ( i hope its the right word)
@go fenris:
I hope you try some Mi-go at some point!
Yeah i will build some! Out of nidwarriors i think. I would love to add some Greater race of Yith models, but they are enemys of great cthulhu but the funghi from yuggoth will be there!
Not many people know of Cthulu but the ones that do, LOVE HIM! Don't screw this up!
I do my very best!
@The grin:
I love the tridents! I hope to get a militia and marauder Sprues in my tentac...... äääähhhhh.... Hands!!
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Plaguezombie!!! *cheers* I too have the hobbies of little army men and Cthulhu Mythos. My two favorite things.... and they go great together.
I think you are doing a great job! I made a Cthulhu inspired Lost and the Damned army a few years ago and used alot of the same pieces that you are using for the conversions. The old Licter head had an awesome Cthulhu-esque head with the tentacle face if you can find one.
I'll be watching this topic closely. It is always good to see another H.P. Lovecraft inspired army.
2009/06/09 16:45:09
Subject: Re:Iä!Iä! Cthulhu Ftaghn! (or what is plaguezombie working on.....)+a alien tribute
Greetings over the great pond to nemissary my brother in Spirit
this are the trailers for the movies Gofenris speaks about. I myself own the Call of Cthulhu movie and it is simply awesome! Is the Whisperer in Darkness out on DVD? I really love the story!
Back to the topic, I thought about using the "Slime effect" from the aliens on my deep ones, too. I think dripping water would look cool on them.
Plaguezombie wrote:Greetings over the great pond to nemissary my brother in Spirit ...
...I myself own the Call of Cthulhu movie and it is simply awesome! Is the Whisperer in Darkness out on DVD? I really love the story!
Back to the topic...
Not yet. They're trying to finish it but need money and remain a completely independent production. Its an LA based group so I'm sure they can find funding but everyone probably wants some kind of distro rights or something. We're a niche group (HPL Fans) which is both good and bad. Sorry for the short hijack.
2009/06/10 04:14:56
Subject: Re:Iä!Iä! Cthulhu Ftaghn! (or what is plaguezombie working on.....)+a alien tribute
Honestly what do you tink? I have to chance something on the eyes, but what?
I loaded some Pictures of the aliens up (in better quality) please rate and comment.
And my new all time favorite model wip! Enjoy!
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The model is 16" tall, the pictures don't do it justice, this is a very large and impressive model of the Great Old One itself.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
2009/06/14 21:49:00
Subject: Re:Iä!Iä! Cthulhu Ftaghn! (or what is plaguezombie working on.....)+a alien tribute
Also agreed,the bulldog is cute and well sculpted.Where you get him from?
Its also from reaper, and i really love him!
The back fin needs to be ribbed in style of the back, It looks a little slopy otherwise. A little like a potato crisp I guess.
Like the lizard creatures,my only advice is that I think the back fin looks a little off.Don't know why just does to me.
My gs skills are not as good as i want them......
BUT:
OMFG! This is exactly what i was looking for! They are also from reaper, and I will order some soon. The deep ones are degenareted Fish/human/mutant/things, so they dont have took all the same. Good excuse to use mine too.
@Orlanth
The kraken looks aweseome and would be a great head for great cthulhu! Can you post a link wherer i can by it?
I know about the Horrorclix mini, but it is a little bit to big for 40k i think. Also, my Hivetyrant will be a spwan of cthulhu, because the real great Cthulhu, high priest of the old ones would kill entire units if they only get a los at him
See that? That thing just stuffed two other things into that bigger thing! What in Morrow's name is going on?"
Whats your pirate name?
http://www.fidius.org/quiz/pirate/
2009/06/18 09:40:38
Subject: Re:Iä!Iä! Cthulhu Ftaghn! (or what is plaguezombie working on.....)+a alien tribute
Here are some wips shots. I made them before everyone thinks tis projekt is dead i also changed the title of the thread.
I decided to make the deep ones as a horde of individiual mutants, instead of making them looking all like the same species. I know they look very wirred, but this all was inspired by pulp storys!
Dread lord Cthulhu slumbers now in acceton! But sone he will awake and crush the foolish plastic guys on the table!
The fins on your Deep Ones really some extra sculpting.
Also, not to rain on anyone's parade because it's kind of unreasonable for your average sculpture, but one of the things about Lovecraft's writing (and something much of the rest of the Mythos writers seem to have either missed or abandoned) is that stuff like the Old Ones and Cthulhu is that they are extra-dimensional entities. Ryleh, for example, is described in "The Call of Cthulhu" as being full of non-euclidean angles. So, obviously, it's kind of hard to sculpt representations of 5+ extra dimensions that looks like anything* but doing so better reflects what Lovecraft was writing about than a bunch of mollusks (cool though tentacled gribblies may be).
*Actually, it's not: although I have a tea-cosy that's a three-dimensional projection of a Klein Bottle. It's just that projective geometry is a closed book to most sculptors.
Badly-sculpted != Cthulhu-esque. Seriously, the fins look like blobs of play-do.
GoFenris:
I'm just complaining about the prosaic view of Cthulhu and the Star-spawn taken in most Mythos inspired sculpture. It's a problem in most of the artwork, as well, and it would be cool if someone managed to sculpt Cthulhu-esque stuff that had some relation to what Lovecraft was actually writing about rather than just another chimera involving tentacles.
That's not to say the Deep Ones in this thread are bad (except for the fins, the rest is an inspired kitbash), though they don't resemble the descriptions giving in "Shadow over Innsmouth", it's just to suggest that some of the source material (particularly the "Call of Cthulhu" movie, where old Castro and the cultists are conveniently not black, as though the racist overtones of Lovecraft's work were incidental rather than central to it) generally misses the point.
Finally, something definitely worth watching if you're not homophobic is Dan Gildark's 2007 "Cthulhu", with Tori Spelling, as it really captures the themes of alienation, paranoia, and un-nature that Lovecraft wrote about.
Cthulu, Hmm, I completely missed that one. I'll have to give it a look.
Okay, now I understand what you were getting at, it wasn't as clear the first time. Yes and I agree, although I do think Lovecraft's descriptions are vague enough for interpretation in most cases.
Love the idea, keep working on the sculpting skills (practice makes perfect).
I think your core innasmouth deep-ones look solid, and really interesting. The fin needs a little work, but I think just to look properly connected with the rest of the body. I would compare what you have with some actual fish fins, find one you like and do your best to replicate it!
@nurglitch: I know my sculpting skills are bad, but as darrkt wrote, practice makes perfect I agree with you that some interpretations of lovecrafts cosmos are totally wrong (great old ones are simply Aliens, and you can beat them with magic etc) Also is the whole idea of making a image or a sculpt of Cthulhu or Yogsototh or any other unspeakable thing out of a lovecrafts story silly. you can't picture something that scares you to death or turns you mad when you see it (hopefully)
@the fins: I will look at some gs tutorials maybe this will help. thx for your comments!
Not to mention, when Lovecraft and Howard wrote their stories, they didn't have movies with the caliber of visuals we do now.
John Carpenter's interpretation of The Thing - Mind blowing at the time although relatively meh+ now.
Imagine if you could show that movie to someone from the 20's?
My point is we are so visually jaded now-a-days and it makes interpretation of past stuff more difficult. We couldn't possibly know exactly what Lovecraft was imagining when he wrote the stuff if we lived in his time but 75 years or so later, it makes it even harder. Art is interpretation and Hollywood likes to tell us exactly what we see, leaving too little open to our imagination.
Technically only perfect practice makes perfect, but you gotta start somewhere! In this case all you need to do is use a dental pick to define some spines going through the fins, work the base into the rest of the model, and clip the top edge to make it look like webbing between spines.
If you're feeling really ambitious, something you could do is define the spines using lengths of copper wire. Drill small holes into the backs of your Deep Ones, like you're pinning a model, and then wrap each wire in greenstuff and shape them like spines. Then flatten some more green stuff into very flat sheets, and work it between the spines so it looks like a flat membrane stretched between the spines.
About sculpting some of the nastier atrocities in Lovecraft's writing, it's not daft to sculpt them, it's just daft to sculpt them as "men in rubber suits". Sculpting 3D projections of 5D+ objects won't cause madness, it's just that Lovecraft's theme of "things that man was not meant to know" meant that anything outside of bourgouis East Coast white society was something that would drive men mad; if you read what he wrote about other cultures, then you get a good idea of his perspective that anything different or strange (like African animism, or Riemannian geometry) was something "man was not meant to know". Think of him as the 'Anti-Roddenberry', if you will.
Here's a review of Gildark's "Cthulhu" (2007). I'd add that while it may seem a bit muddy in composition the first time you watch it, it makes much more sense in the second or third viewings when it's easier to connect some of the earlier scenes to their pay-offs late in the film (some would that this is not mark of a great movie since it should be clear in the first viewing, but I rather like movies that reward multiple viewings).
Nurglitch wrote:About sculpting some of the nastier atrocities in Lovecraft's writing, it's not daft to sculpt them, it's just daft to sculpt them as "men in rubber suits". Sculpting 3D projections of 5D+ objects won't cause madness, it's just that Lovecraft's theme of "things that man was not meant to know" meant that anything outside of bourgouis East Coast white society was something that would drive men mad; if you read what he wrote about other cultures, then you get a good idea of his perspective that anything different or strange (like African animism, or Riemannian geometry) was something "man was not meant to know". Think of him as the 'Anti-Roddenberry', if you will.
Very nice! A much more informed interpretation than my insubstantial comments. Thank you.
Nurglitch wrote:Here's a review of Gildark's "Cthulhu" (2007). I'd add that while it may seem a bit muddy in composition the first time you watch it, it makes much more sense in the second or third viewings when it's easier to connect some of the earlier scenes to their pay-offs late in the film (some would that this is not mark of a great movie since it should be clear in the first viewing, but I rather like movies that reward multiple viewings).
Already in my Netflix queue, thanks again. Always like to find a low budget gem. Especially in a sub-genre I love.
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"That is not dead which can eternal lie
Yet with strange aeons not even this thread may die!"
Abd' al' hazred ressurecting this thread with a little help from the NECRONOMICON.
Ok guys, were to start? It has been a long time since my puny attempts to sculp Deep Ones. In the last year i nearly total switched over to Warmahordes and enjoyed playing my Cryx. As my second faction i now choose the Legion of Everblight.
For those of you who are not Familiar with them look here
Especially the Warbeasts have a really Alien-Feel to them. But why not turn Legion of Everblight into Legion of Cthulhu? My fate was sealed when i saw this This are perfect deep Ones imo
My first idea for count as:
Thagrosh, the Messiah +3 (=Starspawn of Cthulhu)
Harrier -2 (=Mi-go)
Raek -4 (=Hound of Tindalos)
Scythean -9 (=Dark Young of Shubb-Niggurath)
Typhon -12 (=Shoggoth)
Max. Bog Trog Ambushers -8 (=Deep Ones)
Blighted Nyss Shepherd -1 (=Deep One High Priest)
2 Spell Martyrs -2 (=Sons of Yog-Sothoth)
Total= 35 Points
More ideas:
pThag=Dagon
Absylonia=Formless spawn of Tsatogguha
Vayl= Lovecraft himself? (lol)
Sorceress on Hellion= Wizzard on Byakhee
Spawning Vessel= Vodoo Circle
Groteques= Nightgaunts
And here’s the worst. I tried to photograph it for you, but when I developed the film there wasn’t anything visible except the woodshed. What can the thing have been made of? I saw it and felt it, and they all leave footprints. It was surely made of matter - but what kind of matter? The shape can’t be described. It was a great crab with a lot of pyramided fleshy rings or knots of thick, ropy stuff covered with feelers where a man’s head would be. That green sticky stuff is its blood or juice. And there are more of them due on earth any minute.
-The Whisperer in Darkness by H.P. Lovecraft
First Test Model, a Mi-go:
Please Note:
Not everyone will like this models. Not everyone likes Lovecrafts storys nor the ideas behind them. That is intended.
The gap between weird and silly is quite small :p
The model itself turned out better than i thought. Now for some painting......