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What's Idocracy? And why would it make me a libertarian?

The central premise is that two average people get frozen and come back in 100 - 200 years. In that time the mouthbreathers have taken over. Basically your smarter types have 1-2 kids per generation whilst the redneck set pops em out like tomoatoes. Without the the nature's gene cleaner of predagtors on the savanna the "less competitive" types outbreed everything else.

When this average pair become unfrozen, they are the smartest people on the planet.

Its funny. Then you read a paper. Then you think for a minute. Then you buy guns and weep for humanity

Oh good god...

Maybe we need to start regulating who can have children, which I would support entirely, most people I see come through here don't deserve them or shouldn't have them in the first place.

You need a licence to drive, you should have a licence to have children.

Seriously, you apply for a licence. If you are rejected, you can still have them, but get no government support.

That sounds rather brilliant, maybe we should have you and Frazz run for World President and Vice President, it could possibly work. You know if there was such a thing as World President.

But in all seriousness I agree fully, if the Fed don't support you, you don't get support for the little brats, you don't have the money to support them and are too lazy to get a job or just have addictions what good are you gonna be to the community? What good are you gonna be to the kid, they are your problem, or the Feds can take the illegal children and use them for something or put them up for adoption so people who have the license to have a kid but for what ever reason are naturally unable to have them can get one and give it proper care.

You give nothing to the community, why should it give anything to you?

"Back then we didn't have these fancy birth control methods. Like pulling out."

From what movie?

Cheese Elemental wrote:In my experience, schools down here are fanatical about STD protection. Every 2-3 years we have a couple of Sex Education sessions teaching us about contraception and how important cervical cancer shots are (girls at my school get them for free).

That's not vaccine it's liquid roofinol.

Yay Roofies!

There was a study in the US a few years ago (probably government funded), that found people with more education had less sex. Seriously. Those with a PhD had the least, those that dropped out of high school had the most (per week or month, I forget). And it dropped at each level of education - high school, college-dropout, college grad, masters, phd. I couldn't find a link, so feel free to search for it on your own.

Dammit, I shouldn't have done that degree at night school.

I blame my education for my lack of action. Not the fact that I'm ugly and have poor social skills. Or the wedding band. I go on the theory that if a woman is interested in me, there must be something wrong with her.

Dietrich according to your theory I should be getting some action, I barely passed high school because I didn't bother with it, the seemed to be no point I had nothing to prove to those people.

I would how ever assume that the cause for my lack of action is because I am a cynical, sarcastic donkey-cave.

I doubt I'll ever get any action. I'm overweight, shorter than most guys my age, and unfit. The only thing that stops people shoving me around is the knowledge that I have a gun and they don't. Somehow, I doubt having a gun would help get some fun times.

Join the army.
See the world.
Blow it up.

I'd rather join the air force.

Nothing ruins your day like an F-22 Raptor bombing your house.

I disagree. I'd be more concerned with Tyrannosaurs.

I think you mean veloceraptors:

I'll see your T-Rex and raise you a bearspider.

I'll raise you a swan!

But seriously, back on topic people

I have the power to counter your wily troll magic.

BrotherStynier wrote:Unless it involves ownership of firearms, though that might just be the "US Left" rather than the Rest of the World left.

Firearms aren't an issue in any form of liberalism. It's just a product of liberal being turned into a catch-all phrase in the US that makes people think liberal has anything to do with gun control.

Ioncannons? Firearms? Trolling? This board need a little love

ill see your Bearspider and raise you one dolphroo

Frazzled wrote:The central premise is that two average people get frozen and come back in 100 - 200 years. In that time the mouthbreathers have taken over. Basically your smarter types have 1-2 kids per generation whilst the redneck set pops em out like tomoatoes. Without the the nature's gene cleaner of predagtors on the savanna the "less competitive" types outbreed everything else.

When this average pair become unfrozen, they are the smartest people on the planet.

Its funny. Then you read a paper. Then you think for a minute. Then you buy guns and weep for humanity

Except the movie ends with the main character realising that maybe it was people like him that were responsible. They just sat by idly wasting their ability. Its worth remembering that the idea of the idiots outbreeding the smart people has been around for a long time, at least a couple of hundred years, and for all that time the lower generations have been breeding faster yet IQs increase with each generation. The key thing is that intelligence isn't a pure function of genes, that access to education plays a huge part.

If society is getting dumber now, and there's a fair chance it is, it isn't because the poor are breeding. It's because of the anti-intellectualism among the middle class.


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BrotherStynier wrote:But in all seriousness I agree fully, if the Fed don't support you, you don't get support for the little brats, you don't have the money to support them and are too lazy to get a job or just have addictions what good are you gonna be to the community? What good are you gonna be to the kid, they are your problem, or the Feds can take the illegal children and use them for something or put them up for adoption so people who have the license to have a kid but for what ever reason are naturally unable to have them can get one and give it proper care.

The problems with that are two fold. First up, they aren't having the kids because there's money at the end. They have kids they can't afford because they screw up. Whether there's money at the end they'll continue screwing up, it's what screw-ups do. Second up, the support has nothing to do with giving money to parents, but in ensuring the kids are given a decent chance.

And the idea of offering no welfare support has been tried, it was the defaul model for the first 100,000 years of civilisation. The result was a malnutritioned underclass and a lot of crime.

Cheese Elemental wrote:I'd rather join the air force.

Nothing ruins your day like an F-22 Raptor bombing your house.

Australia has an Airforce?

Wouldnt that just consist of this guy?

Not only that, we have our tanks with gattling woomeras and 'roo rider divisions.

sebster wrote:
The problems with that are two fold. First up, they aren't having the kids because there's money at the end. They have kids they can't afford because they screw up. Whether there's money at the end they'll continue screwing up, it's what screw-ups do. Second up, the support has nothing to do with giving money to parents, but in ensuring the kids are given a decent chance.

And the idea of offering no welfare support has been tried, it was the defaul model for the first 100,000 years of civilisation. The result was a malnutritioned underclass and a lot of crime.

I don't think that what I thought would be implemented in such a simple way it would need obvious re-working and streamlining.

I don't think that no one should have welfare, I think that if you're just sitting on you ass doing drugs are popping out kids because you're a moron then you shouldn't get welfare. You should be doing something for the community or government, like back in the 30's.

I also support teaching people about the measures they should take to avoid becoming pregnant or getting an STD, these days are not the time to be ignorant of things like that, of course they aren't the times to be ignorant of lots of things yet people are, including me.