Is it possible to take proxying too far?

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**Leigen_Zero**

RustyKnight wrote:
robertsjf wrote:
Solorg wrote:I think that most casual players agree that proxying is OK. I've done it, you've done it, but how much is too much?

3 Words:

Doctor Pepper Lictor

Four words-
Hive Tyrant Drop Pod

9 Words:
Remote Control VW Camper Toy Looted Wagon with Boomgun

Proxying can be taken to extremes, but then again if I went out and bought all the models I needed when I first started playing seriously, I would have had go without food for a week! so I'm cool with it as long as the intention to de-proxy your army is there

**aka_mythos**

No it can't be. As long as everyone knows what models have what rules. And the model doesn't attempt to exploit or break the rules, (such as an ork tank that is 7 times wider than it should be, conveniently screening) I think its all good.

On one level you're already using your imagination to assume a GW made piece of plastic represents a 8 foot tall super soldier. Its not a stretch to use your imagination and see a non-GW piece of plastic as a 8 foot tall super soldier.

**Red9**

I loled at BLOOD army...lol. Thats more creative/poor/lazy than bad proxy IMO.

**Exarch_Nektel**

As long as you can recognize what the model is supposed to be, it's all right.

**Jive Professor**

The BLOOD army and cutie-slann win the thread.

In terms of staying OT, I think proxying is taken too far when both players can no longer consistently remember what things are. I don't care if you are proxying Dire Avengers with Marines, pennies, or bits of string - as long as the proxy is consistent, doesn't interfere with the gameplay, and we can both remember what they are, I'm fine with it.

I try to avoid proxies as much as possible, but sometimes proxy one weapon for another, i.e. "these plasma gunners are meltas instead". But generally I build lists around the models I have, and if I want something, I just suck it up and wait until I can afford it.

**barlio**

I don't mind proxies when it is blatantly obvious that they don't fit into the army (as in maybe one or two and they actually stand out), but I think this is ok for maybe 1-2 games. If you are playing the same person 3+ times and the force is the same they are either being cheap or lazy. If I've ever proxied something it's because I either forgot something at my house, or I am right in the middle of painting/assembling it.

That being said the BLOOD army and Plushly Slann are classic. I would love to see them, but would be hesitant to play against them.

**Grimpost**

I am ok with proxying if it kept to a limit. 1 or 2 items great. I have a friend who couldn't put up 1250pts of one army. It was half Tau half Eldar. Odd.

Proxy a Devil fish with a remote control Mario & Kart. At the end of the game Mario drifted and threw blues sparks onto my opponents models.

**Jive Professor**

barlio wrote:I don't mind proxies when it is blatantly obvious that they don't fit into the army (as in maybe one or two and they actually stand out), but I think this is ok for maybe 1-2 games. If you are playing the same person 3+ times and the force is the same they are either being cheap or lazy. If I've ever proxied something it's because I either forgot something at my house, or I am right in the middle of painting/assembling it.

That being said the BLOOD army and Plushly Slann are classic. I would love to see them, but would be hesitant to play against them.

Yeah, I do have a problem with people who just proxy endlessly just to be cheap. It is one thing to proxy to try new units or new armies before investing a ton of money in them, but it is another thing entirely to just be lazy about it. Especially when they already have other armies, so you know it's not a monetary issue.

The hobby is expensive, so I'm not trying to be elitist about it, but for those of us who have invested a lot of time purchasing and painting the stuff up, it really livens up the game when everything is visually consistent. I would rather play with less terrain than soda-can factories, I guess is what I'm trying to say.