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Chaos terminators can have power fist,power wepons,lightning claws etc,they just cant have thunder hammers.

oh okay thanks!

I highly discourage the use of Spawn, they're slow and purposeful so when they assault they always strike last, have no armor save, and when they lose combat will take additional wounds and most likely die. In addition they might get d6 attacks but these don't even negate armor saves and their low weapon skill means they need 4's to hit. For the same points cost as a Spawn you could get up to 3 ordinary chaos marines which have a total of 9 attacks when assaulting into close combat. In my opinion lesser daemons also aren't worth it, they're 2 points less than an ordinary chaos marine and they only get a 5+ save, have to deep strike, and have no weapons. I also feel that you're spending too many points on individual squads, I like powerfists but the extra 40 points on top of an already expensive unit really cuts down your numbers, and extra armor really isn't worth it. If you're really concerned about your rhinos being stunned or shaken take demonic possession instead the bs3 doesn't really hurt the twin linked weapons and it's only 5 points more than extra armor (when shaken you can't fire out of the fire point which is what I find best for rhinos), also I highly discourage putting plasma pistols on your champions, you're payin 23+40+15 for that one model which could get you almost another 3 plague marines, and the plasma pistol is only effective at short range so you'll usually only fire it once or twice a game. Then there's the risk however low of killing youself, but it happens more often than you think.

ya im not taking spawn

the reason im takin gextra armor is because it doesnt matter if my rhino cant shoot it isnt shooting enyways.

the plama squads are defencive and are camping on my objective i dont plan for them to shoot alot

Thing is though that the beauty of rhinos is the ability to shoot out of the fire point with your meltaguns and plasmaguns, if it's shaken you can't do that :(

locbot wrote:ya im not taking spawn

the reason im takin gextra armor is because it doesnt matter if my rhino cant shoot it isnt shooting enyways.

the plama squads are defencive and are camping on my objective i dont plan for them to shoot alot

i dint knmow rhinos had a firing point...okay i guess ill take daemonic possesion them

Rhinos have 2 fire points, the codex says they've got only 1 but an FAQ update changed this

locbot wrote:i dint knmow rhinos had a firing point...okay i guess ill take daemonic possesion them

@ locbot
I should perhaps ammend my previous statement in a prior post concerning the current CSM codex,what I should have said was.
While it's a piece of gak,and will not help you in building a Death Guard army,you will still (god forgive me ) need to purchase it in order to understand how your vehicles/troops/HQs/etc, function.

ya i know i just havnt gone aroung to doing it but do sm rhinos have a firing point as well?