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Razerous wrote:It all depends on the original list.

Which, as it stands, is missing some heavy firepower.

Mkay then. To avoid moar spam, I'm just gonna post the new list here (Edit: Nice, First post on Page 2. Epic Timing is epic):
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HQ:
Logan Grimnar

Troops:
6 Wolf Guard Terminators
... Frost Blade and Storm Shield
... Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield
... Dual Wolf Claws
... Combi melta + Chainfist
... Combi Melta + Thunder Hammer
... Storm Bolter, Cyclone Missile Launcher and Storm Shield (Attached to Long Fangs)
...... Drop Pod

10 Grey Hunters
... 2 Meltaguns
... Mark of the Wulfen
...... Drop Pod

10 Grey Hunters
... 2 Flamers
... Mark of the Wulfen
...... Drop Pod

10 Grey Hunters
... 2 Flamers
... Mark of the Wulfen
...... Drop Pod

Heavy Support:
6 Long Fangs
... 1 Pack Leader
... 3 Multimeltas
... 2 Lascannons
...... Drop Pod

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Me being a total Durrrrr, I just Copped on, Wolf Guard Pack Leader+Logan+Long Fangs = Scoring Longfangs so long as the Pack Leader is alive

I have 27 Points to spend, Tell me what to buy!

Gwar! wrote:
Troops:
6 Wolf Guard Terminators
... Frost Blade and Storm Shield
... Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield
... Dual Wolf Claws
... Combi melta + Chainfist
... Combi Melta + Thunder Hammer
... Storm Bolter, Cyclone Missile Launcher and Storm Shield (Attached to Long Fangs)
...... Drop Pod

That entire list is somthing I pretty much ended up with.

All I would suggest is swapping out that storm-shield on the cyclone guy (78pts for one dude.. Perhaps that 15pt stormshield is a worthy investement. Okay) Ummm... I cant see a way add in another useful wolfguard with a power weapon without dropping atleast a combi-melta or perhaps simply add in another wolfguard with a combi-meltagun?

So this leaves you with a pfist for one of the greyhunters (useful for adding in a secondary anti-MC tackler) ooor a lone wolf with meltabombs

Hmm, a lone wolf with Meltabombs seems like a fun idea actually. As for the Cyclone, the Storm Shield is there to give the Long Fangs a much needed Invulnerable save. yes it is risky, but id rather have a 1/3 chance of losing a CML than a 100% chance of losing a Lascannon

Are you sure you want those lascannons? I would go for MMeltas, Logan could always give them Tank Hunter later in the game... or the MLaunchers. Save up on the points, use Logan to more of his ability... As for the Wolf Guard with the cyclone... Id rather a basic one to take hits for the team (him and logan). Then you save up some points... maybe try and get in a small unit of scouts. WIth MB's that can deal with any armour that gets to friendly with the edge.

It will be unlikely that when the Long Fangs pod in, there will be a two targets within range of pew=pew multi-meltas. The lascannons (paired with the cyclone) gives you the ability to reach out and bring down units from far-far away which is what the list lacked previously.

Multi-melta @ 12" = win-boom destruction regardless of AV

Lascannons vs side & rear armour also = win.

Edit: Yeah, I ended up agree'ing with the stormshield on the cyclone guy.. it does add a hefty invunerable save to the long-fangs aswell as protecting the very expensive dude himself for a mere 15pts more.

Razerous wrote:It will be unlikely that when the Long Fangs pod in, there will be a two targets within range of pew=pew multi-meltas. The lascannons (paired with the cyclone) gives you the ability to reach out and bring down units from far-far away which is what the list lacked previously.

Yeah, that was might thought too... However, I can get Missiles that are only 1 strength Less and the same range but 15 points cheaper, freeing up another 30 points (as lascannons are very overpriced). Not sure yet what to take.

Multi-melta @ 12" = win-boom destruction regardless of AV

Lascannons vs side & rear armour also = win.

And S8 doesn't do too bad against side either, with most things having 11 or 12. Though the Lascannons would be better against monoliths...

Edit: Yeah, I ended up agree'ing with the stormshield on the cyclone guy.. it does add a hefty invunerable save to the long-fangs aswell as protecting the very expensive dude himself for a mere 15pts more.

Yup, that was my reasoning as well. Better to risk losing an expensive guy than always lose a slightly less expensive guy

another benefit to this list is it allows you to put logan with the long fangs if need be, tank hunting lascannons=Win!

Demogerg wrote:another benefit to this list is it allows you to put logan with the long fangs if need be, tank hunting lascannons=Win!

If need be? Thats the whole point of the list To Drop Pod in the Fangs, with relentless, and Multimelta your arse from 3 inches away

BTW, what do you think is better? Lascannons or Missiles, or maybe one of each to free up 15 points for something?

Str10 effective weapons are extremely important vs a monolith. If you drop down the missile launchers, you loose that extra strength.

Anti-monolith is the be-all and end-all though but if you want just two weapons for long-range tank busting (and not five standard launchers) then that extra strength will serve the fewer shots being fired.

Razerous wrote:Str10 effective weapons are extremely important vs a monolith. If you drop down the missile launchers, you loose that extra strength.

Tank Hunters doesn''t work against Monoliths, so yeah, S9 is essential. Lascannons stay

Not digging this list. I hate Drop Pods, because they rob your army of mobility that is essential. The Wolf Guard and Logan are a massive point sink and a unit easily avoided, should someone just want to shoot-and-scoot you to death.

The Grey Hunters are wishing they had Power Weapons and a Wolf Guard with a Fist. That pair of special weapons is worth the few extra points. Mark, I feel, isn't ideal unless you have a few random points to sink into them for the hell of it.

Single Wolf Claw > Frost Blade, last I heard. I think the Thunder Hammers are a waste, unless you think they are worthwhile in your metagame. A basic Power Fist does the trick and is a bit cheaper. Storm Shield with a Cyclone? I wouldn't bother. That is a lot of points to lose if you fail that 3+.

Just my observations.