Firing Heavy Flamers from a Chimera

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**Gridge**

I would think that the template over the hull would not indicate a hit...from a common sense standpoint the flames are being projected out over the vehicle. Not even an ork would build it to roast his own hull everytime it fires. As far as individual models using templates well that is different. It seems clear that you could damage your comrades so the rules state that you cannot place a template so that it touches them intentionally.

**KingCracker**

Tri wrote:
kitsunez wrote:build a larger turret =3
mine come with 24" long barrels. Flamer never touch my vehicles ^_^

Oh jeez your one of THOSE people

I think someday Ill make a tank with a cannon so long on it, it has to has some sort of suspension set up (think like a bridge) to keep it from bending in the middle. When I do that, it WILL be the first tournament I play in

**Tri**

KingCracker wrote:
Tri wrote:
kitsunez wrote:build a larger turret =3
mine come with 24" long barrels. Flamer never touch my vehicles ^_^

Oh jeez your one of THOSE people
I think someday Ill make a tank with a cannon so long on it, it has to has some sort of suspension set up (think like a bridge) to keep it from bending in the middle. When I do that, it WILL be the first tournament I play in

Trick is to use a extending radio aerial then you can extend it to the length you need.

**Webbe**

thebetter1 wrote:You measure from the weapon mount, not the barrel.

No you don't. You determine LOS from the mount but measure from the muzzle. It's quite clear on page 56 of the RB.

**DJ Illuminati**

Nenya97 wrote:vehicles have no base, so one might assume that it comes from the barrel as the "from the base" argument has nothing to go on.

So if my vehicles have no base, then you cannot get base to base contact for assaulting.

The Model is the base in the case of vehicles.....

**thebetter1**

When does the BRB say you need base-to-base contact? All I ever noticed was base contact, which clearly only requires one base. So one tank cannot charge another, which it couldn't do anyway.

**DJ Illuminati**

thebetter1 wrote:When does the BRB say you need base-to-base contact? All I ever noticed was base contact, which clearly only requires one base. So one tank cannot charge another, which it couldn't do anyway.

ooohhhh, I didnt see that one coming, well done sir, well done indeed.

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Nenya97 wrote:vehicles have no base, so one might assume that it comes from the barrel as the "from the base" argument has nothing to go on.

What about Valkeries and Fire Prisms....... they have bases........

And how would vehicles be treated in the case of weapons that instruct you to measure to the "targets base".......

**kitsunez**

DJ Illuminati wrote:
Nenya97 wrote:vehicles have no base, so one might assume that it comes from the barrel as the "from the base" argument has nothing to go on.

So if my vehicles have no base, then you cannot get base to base contact for assaulting.

The Model is the base in the case of vehicles.....

clearly your misreading the rules....

base to base does nothing terms of causing a reaction, and therefore no conflict

acid to base would indeed come with the appropriate causatum

so go dip your bases in barrels acid to see if the hull gets flamed

**headrattle**

Rules as Intended. Since there are vehicles with the option to have a template weapon in a turret, and the template always starts at the weapon, it is obvious that a unit with a template weapon in a turret can fire the template weapon without any negative effects upon its self. Otherwise, what would be the point of having the option to have a template weapon in a turret?

After all, it says “friendly units.” It does not say “itself.”

**thebetter1**

thebetter1 wrote:Why can't you fire a flamer from the turret? The rules for firing a template weapon specifically say that the template must be touching the firing model.

The argument here is that a firing infantry model is exempt from this rule, because specific overrides general. Does this somehow not apply to a vehicle, just because it is a vehicle? What about bikers, or cavalry, or MCs? Shouldn't they be prohibited from templates touching themselves when they fire them as well?

It helps to read my posts too.