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dogma wrote:Jean-Paul Satre

Really? Really?

And I totally forgot to represent some of my main men:
St. Augustine
St. Thomas Aquinas
Plutarch
Tacitus
David Hume
Mark Twain
Julius Caesar
Winston Churchill

Yep. Probably never figured me for an existentialist, did you?

Its not terribly surprising really. I know you aren't a nihilist, based on what you have posted and some of the opinions you have stated. Besides I don't know anyone who is stupid enough to actually believe that nihilism is a valid philosophy. While I am definitely beholden to some elements of existentialism, I disagree with some of its points. That aside, I still think Sartre was a major douche bag, and I have never really cared for much of his work...

A suburban childhood increases the likelihood of existentialist/nihilist leanings later in life. True story.

dogma wrote:

warpcrafter wrote:Peter F. Hamilton. His Night's Dawn trilogy is in my opinion the equal to Lord of the Rings or Dune in every way.

Yeah, I remember that scene where Frodo used Gandalf's staff to sling himself onto Sam's penis. Literary master stroke.

Huh? I'm completely dumbfounded. Granted, It was pretty obvious that Merry and Pippin were deep in the closet, I'm pretty sure there was no pedo action in Lord of the Rings. Flabbergasted, really.

Oh!! Oh!! You must have been using sarcasm!!! Fail....................................................................................................................

Mostly a jab at the amount , and ridiculousness, of the sex in Night's Dawn.

So, I figured here's the best place to put this that just came up on the Black Library twitter feed...

Three Black Library novels have been submitted for the David Gemmell Fantasy Award - http://gemmellaward.com/
- Empire, by Graham McNeill; Shamanslayer by Nathan Long; and Reiksguard by Richard Williams (in the Morningstar category). Voting on the longlist doesn't start until the 26th December!

Discuss.

dogma wrote:A suburban childhood increases the likelihood of existentialist/nihilist leanings later in life. True story.

I can agree with that...although growing up in suburbia myself, I think that most of my friends are too ignorant to really understand what the hell you are talking about. The limit of their philosophical understanding is based on I Heart Huckabees, which almost made me gag. I really thought it was one of the most pointless and awful movies ever.

dogma wrote:Mostly a jab at the amount , and ridiculousness, of the sex in Night's Dawn.

Granted, it did have a lot of sex. I believe it was a metaphor for the dead and their desperation to grasp any life-affirmation possible, no matter how futile. I miss that sort of stuff in most fantasy novels, which are pg-13 at most.

Lot's of sex is fine. But women don't swing onto men from subway handrails. Excessive.


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JEB_Stuart wrote:I can agree with that...although growing up in suburbia myself, I think that most of my friends are too ignorant to really understand what the hell you are talking about. The limit of their philosophical understanding is based on I Heart Huckabees, which almost made me gag. I really thought it was one of the most pointless and awful movies ever.

Yeah, I expect our childhoods were quite similar. What fun the template begets!

dogma wrote:Lot's of sex is fine. But women don't swing onto men from subway handrails. Excessive.

You obviously haven't been on the right subway systems, or met the right women

I actually made a bet with the janitor as to how long it would take for that response to appear.

SilverMK2 wrote:

dogma wrote:Lot's of sex is fine. But women don't swing onto men from subway handrails. Excessive.

You obviously haven't been on the right subway systems, or met the right women

... ...

You have my attention, good sir.

warpcrafter wrote:I miss that sort of stuff in most fantasy novels, which are pg-13 at most.

You've never read David Gemmell's books, have you? IIRC, they have the whole hog when it comes to sex, right down to how it feels...

That's not why I read them though!

...moving on...

Do we have to? I can quote one of his novels if you like!

dogma wrote:I actually made a bet with the janitor as to how long it would take for that response to appear.

I hope you won

Oh, almost forgot....


Prof. Richard Dawkins.

Jules Verne is easily my favourite. Douglas Adams second.

JEB_Stuart wrote:I can agree with that...although growing up in suburbia myself, I think that most of my friends are too ignorant to really understand what the hell you are talking about. The limit of their philosophical understanding is based on I Heart Huckabees, which almost made me gag. I really thought it was one of the most pointless and awful movies ever.

Such as all philosophical movies tend to be.

David Gemmell is absolutely fantastic. I swear i was more upset when that bloke died than when dog got put down.

Robin Hobb? Meh.. thing is, i liked the assasins books, but they werent fantastic.

Too much "emotion" for bad ass fantasy i think. I like to see men being men and chopping everyone up. I thought Fitz was just too much of a pansy. Oh Burrich was kinda cool though..

And the whole "gay" thing with the fool.. meh...

You can tell she is a woman anyway!

The fool isnt a women! He's a very confused man


But seriously have you read the series after the Assassin books, its called "The Golden Fool".

Howard Phillips Lovecraft- Call of Cthulhu (I am also his like 23rd Nephew)

Robert E. Howard- Conan the Barbarian

Kristien Britain- Green Rider

Joseph Conrad
Ayn Rand
Albert Camus
Hunter S. Thompson
Chuck Klosterman
Charles Bukowski


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Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:My main problem with naming an author is that I don't always enjoy their work. I like a few Ayn Rand books, but the rest are so overly idealized they bore me to tears.

What books have you read by her? She only wrote four, We The Living, Anthem, The Fountainhead, and Atlas Shrugged. The rest were essays, unless you count her screenplay Night of January 16th. All of her books were "overly idealized" (except We The Living).

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:
R.A Salvatore- If you haven't heard of the Legend of Drizzt, you don't deserve to live.
J. K Rowling- I like the pretty pictures.

Both QFT, though I have sort of outgrown J.K. Rowling (admittedly it seems to be aimed at my age group but I was reading things aimed at my current age group at half my current age). Other than that it is pretty much whatever I am reading at the moment.

Why does no one else here love Brian Jacques?

@Emp - He's the chap with the rats, yeah? I read them about 13 years ago - I really liked them, as I recall...

LEMONY SNICKET!


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Douglas Adams!

Lord Loss, i have read all of Robin Hobbs books, when i said "you can tell she is a woman anyway!"

I was refering to Robin Hobb!

IE- The whole "gay" thing with The Fool. Meaning she makes the books very girly and emotional.

As i said, i do like her books, but she is a feminine writer, im a very ultra violent, red meat man when it comes to fantasy books!