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It would be better to save the rules debate for YMDC, and let the thread carry on.

Hydeckadecka, I would recommend a re-read of the Tank Shock section, as you seem somewhat confused about it. Feel free to post a thread in YMDC if you have any concerns with how it all works.

Thanks for all the replies. I will try next time use the Burna boyz against them.

i usually pick them off first or second with lascannons my suggestion use a high str weapon on them though if he is running a dp or lord you may want to keep[ an eye on them too

Shokk Attack guns will hurt them but make sure you pay that 3 points for an ammo runt. Kustom Mega Blastas on killa kans will fry an obliterator's sorry ass if they can get close enough.