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I don't like jetcouncils, they seem to expensive for what they do, usually after my council gets out of the serpent, it is just many close combat phases spent wiping up whatever charges them. Also, they can never ignore armor saves, unlike Yriel, heh, which is very handy against plague marines/terminators. That's just from personal experience, but ehh, I have never actually used a jetcouncil, also, I usually only go against MEQ's or tau.

HTH & GL

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:I don't like jetcouncils, they seem to expensive for what they do, usually after my council gets out of the serpent, it is just many close combat phases spent wiping up whatever charges them. Also, they can never ignore armor saves, unlike Yriel, heh, which is very handy against plague marines/terminators. That's just from personal experience, but ehh, I have never actually used a jetcouncil, also, I usually only go against MEQ's or tau.

HTH & GL

This is just complete failure. "I don't like jet councils. I have never used one."

Jet councils are better than foot councils, except for the initial turn. You can't Fortune and turboboost to your target. An idea I was toying with, play Eldrad and deploy within reach for Eldrad to Fortune bike council and Fortune the on foot council inside serpent. They then both 24" move towards opponent.

Yes, I know, I should probably try them before I speak, but, for 1,500 points? You lose a lot of firepower, which is very important, and 20 points for +1 save? If I were fighting a gunline army that performed poorly in close combat, I have no doubt that the jet council would outperform the serpent council. However, when mine just get caught up in close combat, the average 120-200 points spent on those nifty bikes seems to go down the gutter, not to mention that foot councils usually don't get destructors. The fact is, that I wouldn't spend those points for the +1 save (though still being vulnerable to small arms fire) and the mobility increase.

I was harsh, sorry.

The 20 for the +1 on save is insane. Fortune and 3+/3+ armor and 4+/4+ Inv., is invaluable.

That is why destructors need to be played. You need to kill a majority of squad so you aren't tarpitted too long.

That is why destructors need to be played. You need to kill a majority of squad so you aren't tarpitted too long.

QFT

I cringe everytime someone says "drop those destructors, they're useless"...

For the record, if I had more money/modeling talent/motivation I would build a saim-hann army, it's cool that you find the motivation to do what you do.

Also, it is very hard to express emotions over the interweb...

Yea its going to be a bitch to model them. And to pay for them jetbikes is bloody expensive, might as well buy a wraithguard unit (although lol at that thought).

Only thing Im conserned about in the list I proposed:
-Low ranged AT
-Low ranged AI (i have tons of close range AI, 9 templates)

So I feel my shooting turn my be short, maybe to short. Not sure how to change that up though.