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Well I can't take allied land raiders, you can only take certain things, it's annoying. Though I will take crusaders for the heavy support, and I NEED a grey-knight hero to make the army legal.

Black Templars;
2 hq'a with retinue in landraiders,
3 sword brethren in landraiders
6 Crusader squads in landraiders
3 Landraiders

14 Landraiders anyone?

@Waaagh!_ORK
Get out of the thread, unless you can fit that in 2,500 points. Quit being counter-productive.

Daemonhunter LR Crusaders come w/ multi-meltas.

Your LR upgrades should just be...

extra armor
smoke
dozer blade (and this is if you're on a terrain heavy map)

Pintle mounted and psycannon bolts are a total waste of points.

Use those points you're clearing up to give your stormtroopers meltaguns and flamers.

Yeah, my current upgrades are going to be a waste against all but one (maybe two) armies. Though I don't know about the flamers, no matter what I do, I don't think this army can ever do well against any horde...

here's my take on your list

inquisitor lord
bolter
mystic
mystic
mystic
warrior
melta gun
warrior
melta gun
landraider
extra armor

Grey Knight Hero Brother Captain
thunder hammer
storm shield
psychic hood
auspex

inquisitor
bolter
landraider
extra armor
hunter killer missle

inquisitor
bolter
landraider
extra armor
hunter killer missle

inquisitor
bolter
landraider
extra armor
hunter killer missle

5 stormtroopers
melta gun
melta gun

5 stormtroopers
melta gun
melta gun

5 stormtroopers
melta gun
melta gun

5 stormtroopers
melta gun
melta gun

5 stormtroopers
melta gun
melta gun

5 stormtroopers
melta gun
melta gun

landraider crusader
landraider crusader
landraider crusader

2500

thats 6 scoring land raiders, 1 non scoring, psychic defense, deep strike defense, 3 multi meltas, 8 lascannons, 14 melta guns, 6 hurricane bolters, 3 assault cannons, 4 heavy bolters, 3 hunter killer missles

edit: or this version for more anti horde

inquisitor lord
combi flamer
targeter
mystic
mystic
mystic
warrior
flamer
warrior
flamer
warrior
flamer
landraider
extra armor
hunter killer missle

Grey Knight Hero Brother Captain
thunder hammer
storm shield
psychic hood
auspex

inquisitor
bolter
landraider
extra armor
hunter killer missle

inquisitor
bolter
landraider
extra armor
hunter killer missle

inquisitor
bolter
landraider
extra armor
hunter killer missle

5 stormtroopers
melta gun
melta gun

5 stormtroopers
melta gun
melta gun

5 stormtroopers
melta gun
melta gun

5 stormtroopers
flamer
flamer

5 stormtroopers
flamer
flamer

5 stormtroopers
flamer
flamer

landraider crusader
landraider crusader
landraider crusader

2500

Yeah the 10 per trooper squad thing is a real waste... I think I will go with your first list with a few changes. I'll post it soon...

How about 3 Leman Russ Vanquishers? Dead.

What the hell is wrong with you? Can you make coherent thoughts? Probably not... If you're just going to be an ass, don't post.

Pretty brutal list. 7 Raiders can contest every objective possible in a Seize Ground mission. Ow.
Drive each one in a little circle around each objective for the 4+ to hit in melee every turn, and you're looking at some hard-assed Land Raiders.

I don't even know how I'd counter a list like this. I'm a biker Marine guy, with Speeders and mech Tacticals to round out the force. I also like my Ven Dreads.
All of that withers under lascannon fire. The only thing I can think of to stop this list is using a trio of Attack Bike squadrons with multimeltas. I'd have to turbo-boost a lot for cover saves from the ID-causing lascannons, though. Attrition from ID would be tough to overcome.

Of course, I never tailor for lists, since I'm relegated to getting all my games in on tournament day, and all-comers is needed then. I'd simply try to maneuver smartly, using screens of units that can't touch the Raiders to try to get my melta weapons to bear.

As for what other folks in my area might try...hmmm...

The Nidzilla player would probably just try to meet the Raiders head-on and hope for good armor penetration rolls before his Fexxen are cut down by lascannons. If you focus fire on one at a time, you could likely take out 2-3 per turn.

Our IG Armored Fist player would harry your flanks with Vendettas and MeltaVets, while trying to land battlecannon shots. He likes the plasma tanks though, so he'd be at a huge disadvantage there.

The Ork players would likey just try to mob up around your tanks, losing 5 per mob every turn from your tank shooting, but preserving the PKs for the guaranteed charge attacks every turn once they're in range. Luckily, a Crusader or two can sweep Orks off another tank, like that scene in Saving Private Ryan. lol.

We've also got a crafty Deathwing player who'd probably delay his whole force, and go for chain-Shakes on the Raiders to keep them from firing at his squads. He's really good at mixing his squad armaments to play wound allocation games.

The Tauplayer would likely swarm you with those fusion gun things on his suits, and Hammerhead rail shot. Pathfinders markerlighting each tank in turn til it was dead.


It is a tough list to face if you're not tailoring for it. And we don't play 2500 point games but once a year for Ard Boyz. Tough to say what the reaction to it would be. Sad thing is, it's not even all that expensive a list, moentarily, to build!

Zid wrote:DE would tear this list a new one... or anything with tons of meltas. Seeing as you'd MAYBE kill 1 disembarked squad a turn if they're out of cover... Would be hella fun to play tho, and a lot of people would just groan and facepalm at having to kill 7 LR's lol!

It would depend on who got the first turn.

14 twin linked lascannons firing at 7 different DE paper warships=taking down 7 raiders/ravagers in a turn.

I realize that a ton of dark lances would tear up these land raiders but they have to be able to shoot first.

=P Hmm... from what everyone has been saying, I have taken a few things...

1) Keep the enemy at an arm's length, CC and Melta's are my #1 enemy

2) MELTA/LANCE weapons will endanger my land raiders... ALOT.

3)IG will put up a very, VERY tough fight.

4) Did I mention Melta is a big threat...?

Still too much work to post the list...

Black Antelope, i see what you have done by putting the mystics in there, thats just wrong XD

StarGate wrote: Well Redeemers and crusaders can carry more troops you know ... Can you bump the squads up to more men in each unit??
You not getting the multimelta upgrades on the crusaders??

Their GK LRCs. They come with automaticily come with a MM.
As for filling the last points:

HQ
Inquistor Lord - Combi-Plasma, Emperor's Tarot, 3 Mystics, 3 Veteran Guardsmen w/Plasma Guns, 2 Sages, 1 Familiar - 429
Land Raider

Brother Captain - Psycannon - 91

Elite
Inquisitor - Boltgun, Auspex, 2 Mystics - 285
Land Raider

Inquisitor - Boltgun, Auspex, 2 Mystics - 285
Land Raider

Inquisitor - Boltgun, Auspex, 2 Mystics - 285
Land Raider

Troop
Inquisitorial Storm Troopers (8) - 2 Melta Guns - 100

Inquisitorial Storm Troopers (8) - 2 Melta Guns - 100

Inquisitorial Storm Troopers (8) - 2 Melta Guns - 100

Heavy Support
Land Raider Crusader - Pintle-mounted Storm Bolter, Psycannon Bolts - 275

Land Raider Crusader - Pintle-mounted Storm Bolter, Psycannon Bolts - 275

Land Raider Crusader - Pintle-mounted Storm Bolter, Psycannon Bolts - 275



2500 exactly


Spread the Inq Land Raiders out for maximum annoyance (I mean Auspex/Mystic coverage). Storm Troopers and the GKBC run in the Crusaders.
Storm Troopers give anti-Land Raider
GKBC shoots hoards and counter assaults.
Lord Inq acts as anti-TEQ - 8 BS4 S7 AP2 shots, with 1 reroll for anyone who rolls a 1.
Inqs stay in the Land Raiders.


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Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:=P Hmm... from what everyone has been saying, I have taken a few things...

1) Keep the enemy at an arm's length, CC and Melta's are my #1 enemy

2) MELTA/LANCE weapons will endanger my land raiders... ALOT.

3)IG will put up a very, VERY tough fight.

4) Did I mention Melta is a big threat...?

Still too much work to post the list...

Yep, Id say your biggest threat it melta/S10 blast spam IG or Lance spam DE.

However, there is the interesting suggestion of running BT - If you didn't mind about switching armies, it would certainly render DE impotent agaist you. (Obvoiusly, DE are pretty rare, so it may not be that important)

There is a fairly standard ork list that can tackle this fairly easy. I actually ran it recently at a local tournament at 2k points so wont be hard to update it to 2500 and then i saw a tau list that would laugh at this army even at its 2k point list that i saw it at, and its a faily common gun line for tau.

Not the exact army but something i would run at 2500 points to go after any MEQ.

Ghazzy
2 megas combi rockets,CB
1 mega combi skortcha,CB
1 mega, CB
Battle Wagon red,ram,plank, 4 rocket launchas,grabber,armor plates
(580)

2 units of these
1 megas combi rockets,CB
1 megas combi skortcha,CB
1 megas, CB
Battle Wagon red,ram,plank, 4 rocket launchas, grabber's
(290each) x2 would make them (580)

4 units of boyz or shoota boyz or combined
29 boyz
1 nob PK,BP
(220each) (880) combined

Add Mad dock to one of the choppa boyz
(160)

3 units of Deffkoptas
2 koptas twin-liked rocket launches,cb
(100each) (300) combined

Thats 2500 even and very orky, playable army for ANY MEQ, there are 16 PKs in there, the wagons Raming the LRs with those rams can pop em, and then 16 rocketlaunchas and 6 twin linked rocket launchas.

And then a tau army with 9 braodside's and whatever else they want to toss in there.