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Yeah, the vanquisher is a little underwhelming... I usually have to set my basilisk up in the corner, protected by a platoon or two. Without a transport, I would suggest giving those foot squads heavy weapons, they tend to be alot more reliable than a 8-1/2" template... I prefer auto-cannons and lascannons, they tend to rip up those nasty defilers... I would throw in some powerfists, so those defilers become a bit less unopposed.

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I have a question about blobs. Are you still aloud to have 1 special weapon per 1 srg and 9 guardsmen? or is it 1 special weapon for the whole blob?

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As you only blob just before the game begins, each individual squads has seperate access to upgrades.

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Sweet tyvm

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sadly I dont have Chimeras(yet)

That's a problem.

Take Vendettas to pop his Rhinos and Leman Russes to target the passengers.

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daedalus wrote:
willydstyle wrote:
Wave serpents can't have holofields.

In 4th ed, the "skimmer spam" army was supposedly king of the hill, but I never lost to it in tournament play.


Well I... interesting. I think perhaps I should have a once over of the Eldar codex and perhaps talk to the fellow I played against.


Wave Serpents do have AN energy field tho, the one that drops weapon strength to 8 (if higher) and negates additional dice from melta, Ordnance and such. The Holo Field is the on the makes you roll 2d6 and take the lowest for damage results.

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wuestenfux wrote:
sadly I dont have Chimeras(yet)

That's a problem.

Take Vendettas to pop his Rhinos and Leman Russes to target the passengers.
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a Vendetta would be nice but i dont no were to get enough lascannons :\

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Kazerkinelite wrote:a Vendetta would be nice but i dont no were to get enough lascannons :\
you want lascannons? http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat300001a&prodId=prod1280042

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A guy i play has 2 valkeries and at the end of the game he just moves them to contest the points he cant take.
its a cheap move imo but it will get the job done if its ur last turn

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The eye of terror.

It's not even that cheap of a move. Valkyries cannot tank shock, so if you can set up your infantry in a wide enough circle around the objective the valkyrie cannot get its base within 3".

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Valks can fly over enemy units? just not stop on top of enemy units?

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The eye of terror.

That's correct. They can fly over, but they cannot stop within 1" of enemy models, nor force enemy models to move via tank shock, because they are not tanks.

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I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly wrote:

Wow. Do you feel very strongly on this issue, or have you just gone off your medication?

If the OP doesn't have a lot of chimeras, then yes, blob platoons are the way to go.

Nominate some blobs to hold your nearer objectives and give them all special and heavy weapons. Try and place objectives on your side of the board in or near cover, so these troops can hold them. Not too near the board sides, because your enemy may have outflanking units.

Nominate some blobs to go and take your enemy's objectives. Give each blob a commissar with power weapon, and every sergeant a power weapon and meltabombs. This will allow them to assault marines and help them resist tank shocks. Obviously, this combo works well with Creed or Straken, because they can supply furious charge. Those platoons should be useful for claiming and keeping objectives.

Just keep in mind that your long-range platoons + any vehicles in your army have to be able to kill transports and vehicles at range. Regarding your current list, you don't need a vox in every squad, just one to every platoon. I would give command squads maximum special weapons as well, so you can run them behind the blob platoons and use them to shoot up people who get close.


Wow. Do you like repeating what other people have to say, or did you just not take the time to read the thread?
And Yes, I do feel strongly on this issue.

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Woops, my bad for replying to the OP's question with what I consider sensible advice. I should've yelled out the points cost of guardsmen, and what special rules Creed gives them.

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I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly wrote:Woops, my bad for replying to the OP's question with what I consider sensible advice. I should've yelled out the points cost of guardsmen, and what special rules Creed gives them.
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Kazerkin:
sorry but using blobs/chimeras wont help i will win always

not to be a downer or anything buddy boy

good luck though now that i has my fast attack troopsez

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The IG is designed to win objective games...lots of troops in chimeras, blob squads on your own side to hold objectives, as well as outflanking troop units all make the IG army excel in objective grabbing..



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