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What's this? The Lt is saying 'semi-decent' about the glory boys now? Can't wait for some serious battle testing from you on these guys.

I was thinking about it - the vets needing that transport definitely makes them a more expensive melta option than 5 ST's with 2x MG. They can't walk the melta on target, but the ST's have a chance to with any of their SO's.

Be fair.

I still think melta suicide squads are a waste, even if they are sometimes effective. I simply said that this might be a decent way to use this squad. Semi-decent means exactly what I said they aren't good for the job, still too expensive, and there are other options that can do the job without dying.

Transports don't make a squad more expensive, they make that squad the same price, and you get a transport. Transports don't vanish after they deliver their squad. Vendettas or Valks have amazing weapon loadouts. You can't just say they are any ol transport. Yes, the troopers can get there cheaper overall, but if you did it with Vets and a Valkyrie... you still get a Valkyrie, which is quite a buy.

Since ur rubbing my nose in it the REAL reason I REALLY WANT to attempt taking some Kasrkins is because I am a Cadian player, and if you read any of the fluff about the Kasrkins... you can't help but be impressed. I am just looking for a reasonable excuse that I can try them out and not hate myself for wasting the money on the models.

Also, now that I just finished up with the Nid Apoc game, AP3 is looking more and more useful (MLs still suck, I would take a Las over ML still.)

I mean, what kind of commander doesn't update his stratagy to new threats?

A bad one.

The transport doesn't make the squad more expensive - it makes the melta mission more expensive. Sure you get a transport, my point is you have to take a transport.

Yea, but a Chimera can do 55pts of damage on its own. The fact that it is also a transport that will let some vets do more damage somewhere else is just icing on the cake.