Shooting up Nob Bikers, can it be donw quick enough to stop them mowing guard down -_-

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**alarmingrick**

BeRzErKeR wrote:
alarmingrick wrote:while i concur with using the PBS and Callidus Assassin, i have a question about something mentioned eariler. several people claimed that the Hydra didn't negate cover saves. actually they DO remove turbo boosting cover saves. pg. 51 of the IG codex.

Right, they remove TURBO-BOOSTING cover saves. However, Ork Warbikers and Nob Bikers ALWAYS have a 4+ cover save, which Hydras do not negate.

good to know. thanks for The clarification!

**puma713**

The Acolyte wrote:
grankobot wrote:Psyker Badass Squad

Even if it doesn't work this could be a funny way of killing them

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sourclams wrote:If you want to LOLERCAT all over Nob Bikers, forever:

Inquisitor Lord, so that you can add a Callidus Assassin.

8-strong PBS. Now max Nob Biker leadership is ... 2.

Callidus Assassin. Her Neural Shredder is Ld8 versus Ld2. Now all your wounds cause instant death. Oh, and it ignores cover. And it's AP1 and ignores FNP. And she doesn't scatter when she arrives from Reserves on a 3+ turn 2 because of an Astropath. So the Nobz get a 5+ invuln save (if they have Cybork) or they just die. And then run away at Ld2 from shooting casualties. And even if they regroup, their max movement is 3".

3x Vendettas so that you can fly around LOLing as you plink the other squad of Nob Bikers.

Another 8 strong PBS squad so that you can make that one run away, too.

Manticores, because you still need 1100 points' worth of units to fill out your army.

Your IG army just won the game on turn 2. Like every time.

Would just like to add that the phase sword ignores Armour and invulnerable saves in combat so they can't take any saves against cc attacks!

Not only that, but if you hit them with the Neural Shredder and kill at least 25% (which you probably will), then they'll have to take a break test on Ld 2. If they fail that break test, obviously they fall back. If your assassin is still in assault range, she can charge the broken unit. If they cannot regroup against Ld 2, they are destroyed.

**Chec Eu**

sourclams wrote:If you want to LOLERCAT all over Nob Bikers, forever:

Inquisitor Lord, so that you can add a Callidus Assassin.

8-strong PBS. Now max Nob Biker leadership is ... 2.

Callidus Assassin. Her Neural Shredder is Ld8 versus Ld2. Now all your wounds cause instant death. Oh, and it ignores cover. And it's AP1 and ignores FNP. And she doesn't scatter when she arrives from Reserves on a 3+ turn 2 because of an Astropath. So the Nobz get a 5+ invuln save (if they have Cybork) or they just die. And then run away at Ld2 from shooting casualties. And even if they regroup, their max movement is 3".

3x Vendettas so that you can fly around LOLing as you plink the other squad of Nob Bikers.

Another 8 strong PBS squad so that you can make that one run away, too.

Manticores, because you still need 1100 points' worth of units to fill out your army.

Your IG army just won the game on turn 2. Like every time.

This, i like. Thanks guys =] I thought the hyrda just ignored cover saves =/ And treating them like terminators is a much better way of looking at them, thanks

**Waaaaghmaster**

You really don't need anything special to counter nob bikers. Just FF them until you kill enough to force a morale check.. My Nob bikers have a bad habit of fleeing the battle before doing much harm :(

**don_mondo**

sourclams wrote:If you want to LOLERCAT all over Nob Bikers, forever:

Inquisitor Lord, so that you can add a Callidus Assassin.

8-strong PBS. Now max Nob Biker leadership is ... 2.

Callidus Assassin. Her Neural Shredder is Ld8 versus Ld2. Now all your wounds cause instant death. Oh, and it ignores cover. And it's AP1 and ignores FNP. And she doesn't scatter when she arrives from Reserves on a 3+ turn 2 because of an Astropath. So the Nobz get a 5+ invuln save (if they have Cybork) or they just die. And then run away at Ld2 from shooting casualties. And even if they regroup, their max movement is 3".

And since she doesn't scatter, you start her behind (ie between the Nob Biker's and the board edge they fall back towards) so that after they fail their Morale and run, she can still assault them, requiring them to take another Morale test (still on a 2 LD) or they are automatically destroyed.
And PBS is never wasted, even against those other armies, especially if you have a Callidus. Even without the Callidus, they can throw out a 26" range ST 8 (assuming 8 psykers as suggested) random AP large blast. Be surprised how often you can roll 9 or less on 3d6...................