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Hmm, who owns the rights to that picture, you know?

As for the small "bolter" toting angel in the arch, well, I didn not realize GW owned the rights for large bore bulky looking machine guns.

That pic was done for the 40k card game, as far as I know.

But the point of the bolter is that it's kind of an iconic image at this point.

And it's entirely possible that I just think it looks kinda silly It throws off the more 'Crusader' image that the shoulderpad gives off. I don't think I've ever seen any GW artwork with an angel and a bolter either. It just has something that feels...off.

Angel and bolter. There you go, I´m the first one that did it, didnt copy anything.

The bolter is just a machine gun and the machine gun in the arch is far from a bolter. Ifs like making a mm sized more or less generic car from GS and then having general motors crashing into you for stealing a particular brand of car.

Be that as it may, I still think it throws off the flow of the model/imagery. It would be like seeing an AK-47 in the middle of Da Vinci's works.

Ah now I understand what you meant.
Well, be it as it may but it´s to late to alter now.

Luckily the 40k universe mixes ak47s and ancient art quite freely
But I´ll consider that for later sculpts, thanks.

aweome, may make me rebuild my Dark Angels.


btw, are you guys ever planning on doing torsos (heresy era-esque)?

Yeah, I'm not really artistically trained or a good sculptor by any means--but it just seemed off. Couldn't really explain it better than that.

I was looking at your gallery though, and I spotted your Librarian Terminator...that kind of wing that he's got as a shield? That's exactly what I was meaning to have flaring off the shoulderpad for a more Paladin-y Astartes look.

Please tell me you intend to sell these as well

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/282419.page

Like the pre heresy shoulder pads, epically the skull and horned pads. The terminator version will suit the Liberian conversion I’ve just done.

Are you going to do a version of the deathwing pad with more generic space marine iconography? As I think that style pad will suit terminator company champions in other chapters

I’m a fan of the over lapping armour on the pads
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Oh by the way, do you do this full time now as it seems your churning out a lot of stuff these days.

Pyriel did they chain you up and point a gun at your head lol? The output is mental!


Its all Nicks fault, the evil slave driver he is.
Well, actually the secret is to finding stuff to do that you really like yourself and the work becomes much less "work" and more of a hobby and thus you´ll automatically spend more time with it.
Its pretty nice to turn on a couple of movies and sit in a sofa with gf sculpting and painting stuff you like to the movies.


Everything looks ace on these guys dude, but now I really want to see what you have for monday... dammit...


(or tuesday)
It´s...big!

Not helping lol.

Sneak Peak for a friend??? =]

P.s, making a mod version of the exorcist pad would make for a great librarian crux... I suppose putting the crux back there instead of the pentagram would be pushing it a bit though...
another idea - Dante style SM helmets
another idea again - maybe the swords people are suggesting could be case in such a way as to slot onto the nub of a hammer shaft? I.e, you clip the hammer off, but leave 3-4 mm of the shaft intact, then your weapon would slide onto it, making it into a pre-made pin? feasible?

MajorTom11 wrote:
P.s, making a mod version of the exorcist pad would make for a great librarian crux... I suppose putting the crux back there instead of the pentagram would be pushing it a bit though...

Alpharius wrote:Those "Exorcist" pads will also make one hell of a librarian symbol pad too, with just a little extra work...

Inexcusable!

This thread's barely 2 pages long!!!

I don't like the cone of shame...

Keeps getting better all the time!

G

neiltj1 wrote:wow those look great for word bearers. I would just have to paint flames around the skulls. /love

Brillaint! Im definently going to use them for my word bearers too.

you just convinced me to redo my belial model...
the new stuff looks great, especially the hornstar and dw pads...
cool stuff
expect an order soon

btw, are you guys ever planning on doing torsos (heresy era-esque)?

If its legal then maybe but then we need to pour money into legal to truly find out if and if so what can be done.

I was looking at your gallery though, and I spotted your Librarian Terminator...that kind of wing that he's got as a shield? That's exactly what I was meaning to have flaring off the shoulderpad for a more Paladin-y Astartes look.

Hehe, you mean the eagle shield I sculpted some year ago
Its a chapterhouse shield.

But yeah, the idea sounds nice but I have no idea how to do it art-wise. Need to ponder it for a while and see if I can come up with some good looking concepts first.

Please tell me you intend to sell these as well

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/282419.page

Its answered in that thread.
No I cant sell these for two reasons:
A: It violates IP and thus is illegal to sell.
B: Its s quick sculpt for my own use only and as such a very bad quality one, even if it was legal to sell it I would not do so since I would be ambarassed to charge money for such lack of sculpt quality. Sure for personal use and for fun it looks really nice but its not what I would call a "professional" sculpt.

I could however be persuaded to trade a piece for some used bitz to enrich the hobby and add some nice looking model to someone elses occasional army but I will not charge any money for it or mass-cast it.

If enough demand turns out to tell me otherwise I can remake the sculpt using different iconography that is legal and make a better quality sculpt of it though.
But that is far in the future.

Are you going to do a version of the deathwing pad with more generic space marine iconography? As I think that style pad will suit terminator company champions in other chapters

I’m a fan of the over lapping armour on the pads
.
Oh by the way, do you do this full time now as it seems your churning out a lot of stuff these days.

Maybe, if so the DW pad will have a row of skulls in the middle instead of a sword. Unless you can give me some other awesome idea.

Cool to hear you like the segmented armour pads. I thought people would hate them and did them simply because I like that concept myself and will use them in parts of my army.

Nope, no full time, Nick and Me own this both as a part time thing and we are for most of the part busy with life and work otherwise.
But it grows so one never knows.
Kinda a dream come true if I could work with what I love doing on my hobby/spare time.

P.s, making a mod version of the exorcist pad would make for a great librarian crux... I suppose putting the crux back there instead of the pentagram would be pushing it a bit though...

Elaborate please, did not quite understand what you meant.

another idea - Dante style SM helmets

Hmm, dunno, would people want them?

another idea again - maybe the swords people are suggesting could be case in such a way as to slot onto the nub of a hammer shaft? I.e, you clip the hammer off, but leave 3-4 mm of the shaft intact, then your weapon would slide onto it, making it into a pre-made pin? feasible?

You mean basically turning the hammer into a naginata or halbeard?
Like long hammer shaft but with a long blade on top, blade with a pin so people can drill a hole into the hammer shaft (with hammer head removed) and insert it there?

Sneak Peak for a friend??? =]

Nnnnngh ok but only because its you
PM with pic sent. Hope you like it.
Now keep your mouth shut about this.

Wow that's great stuff

I'm thinking more like this, but with a larger hilt(maybe half the Thunder Hammer's size. About down to where the textured grip begins) that would make you think it can be used two handed if the Terminator wielding it was so inclined.

So what about all the thick plastic cables along the termie hammer?

That's a good question. I figure there's two ways to go:

1) Have the sword be just the blade and pommel, then have it attach right along the ridged part under the hammer's head.
2) Have it be an entirely separate piece with a molded on hand to allow all kinds of awesome posing.

P.s, making a mod version of the exorcist pad would make for a great librarian crux... I suppose putting the crux back there instead of the pentagram would be pushing it a bit though...

Elaborate please, did not quite understand what you meant.

I was thinking to put some kind of cross (close to the crux terminatus cross) that the standard left termi pad has behind the skull as opposed to the pentagram for librarian use, or maybe something of a similar graphic motif modified for legal reasons. (although to be honest, the pentagram kind of works for the librarian too!)

another idea - Dante style SM helmets

Hmm, dunno, would people want them?

The would,but I think there are a lot of them on the new BA sprues that were revealed today lol

another idea again - maybe the swords people are suggesting could be case in such a way as to slot onto the nub of a hammer shaft? I.e, you clip the hammer off, but leave 3-4 mm of the shaft intact, then your weapon would slide onto it, making it into a pre-made pin? feasible?

You mean basically turning the hammer into a naginata or halbeard?
Like long hammer shaft but with a long blade on top, blade with a pin so people can drill a hole into the hammer shaft (with hammer head removed) and insert it there?

Not quite, what I meant was to essentially leave a little bit of the shaft when clipping off the hammer, but to make a sword with a whole in the base that the leftover hammer shaft would fit into snuggly. This would essentially make the leftover a pin to stick into the sword, making the conversion extremely easy, lined up properly and stable with just a spot of glue. Once put on, the sword would be flush with the hand, and you would never know the hammer was ever there! It would all be dependent on A making it clear to the consumer what the hole in the sword is for, and letting them know they would need to leave a little bit of the previous hammer there for the sword to 'sleeve' over. The hilt of the hammer could stay as it easily looks like the hilt of a sword too.

Of course the whole idea depends on 2 things, the sword looking good if it is designed to accomodate the hammer shaft nub, or a real pin, and B the resin or metal the sword is made out of being strong/thick enough to be durable once glued in place.

Sneak Peak for a friend??? =]

Nnnnngh ok but only because its you
PM with pic sent. Hope you like it.
Now keep your mouth shut about this.

K, I saw, all I can say is you guys better wear diapers on tuesday, because I promise you will **** yourselves blind with joy.

Don't say I didn't warn you when it happens!!!

Pyriel- wrote:

Sneak Peak for a friend??? =]

Nnnnngh ok but only because its you
PM with pic sent. Hope you like it.
Now keep your mouth shut about this.

But...but... I thought we were friends too!

Can't wait until Monday/Tuesday, as I think my pre-heresy dreams will be closer to reality then!

Alphy you will be pleased sir, I guarantee it!

MajorTom11 wrote:Alphy you will be pleased sir, I guarantee it!

You rotten tease!

I'll take your word for it though...

these look excellent especially the horned skull and pre heresy era shoulder pads ,
as a possible request (and that i see pretty much no Nl support anywhere) could you possibly make some nightlord shoulderpads , aka ones with the demonwings and the skull , some with rims and maybe some long haired heads , ala in the style of the ones in the bretonian box , (also because i plan to convert konrad curze at some point and i have long hair ) maybe some skull faced helmets (i know for a fact they would be very popular xD )
or in the style of this picture ...

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs24/f/2008/031/e/7/Konrad_Curze_by_Noldofinve.jpg

oh and maybe the hair on another head (So different head options perhaps) in the style of arthas the lich king
or maybe a helmet with the same style as his helmet , too
thanks in advance
loving the new work
chaoz

Segmented pads: Looking nice.

Studded pads: Nice idea, bad technique (in order to have identical studs you should have drilled shallow holes into the pad and insered ball bearings/beads instead of using green stuff).

Excorcist pads: Rather good - but the horns are to bagelish and the greenstuffed text looks somewhat amateurish compared to letters made with letter tools. The rim on the terminator sized one looks great (symmetrical and with sharp, clean edges) though.

Tree arches-pad: Great concept, very original. Too bad the sculpting is rough and with uneven edges (as if you used old or half hardened GS). Sword is to blocky (looks like a tie).

In total; great ideas and a job well done.

Not ready for mass production/resale (yet) though.

Really? Think more or less every one else will disagree with you. Can’t wait myself.

as a possible request (and that i see pretty much no Nl support anywhere) could you possibly make some nightlord shoulderpads

The basic rule is that if forgeworld does stuff for some army then I dont prioritize it.
But strangely enough I am already doing bigger NL pads

Segmented pads: Looking nice.

Studded pads: Nice idea, bad technique (in order to have identical studs you should have drilled shallow holes into the pad and insered ball bearings/beads instead of using green stuff).

Excorcist pads: Rather good - but the horns are to bagelish and the greenstuffed text looks somewhat amateurish compared to letters made with letter tools. The rim on the terminator sized one looks great (symmetrical and with sharp, clean edges) though.

Tree arches-pad: Great concept, very original. Too bad the sculpting is rough and with uneven edges (as if you used old or half hardened GS). Sword is to blocky (looks like a tie).

In total; great ideas and a job well done.

Not ready for mass production/resale (yet) though.

Hmm, feels weird you arent picking flaws on the segmented pads, those are the ones with the most flaws.

The horns look like bagels in the pics yes and also as I already said. The sculpt from the upper angle (not seen as I suck at camera usage) is made deliberately to turn from the bagel trap

Hehe, the sword had to be made fat to fill up the arch space, I did a thin sword beforehand and it looked really stupid.
All in all, its very very hard to make pics of green look good. The eldar jetbike riders seen in other threads look awful but now as I hold them in my hands for finalization they blew me away.

Wish I had letter tools too or like GW sculptors, the resources to make hand sized sculpts and then shrink them to 28mm sized, that would eliminate all rough flaws.
But I can only get better hopfully so we might even se less and less flaws as time goes on.

Did not get the "not ready for mass production" thing though.
You mean they are not cast yet or that they are to ugly to be cast?

He does make a good point, actually. You don't need to fill up the arch spaces.

No problem, I´ll probably redo it with something generic instead of a sword.