Titans and other super heavy tactics

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**Praxiss**

They count as ordnance? Wouldn't that mean that the Vulcan shots would scatter?

I have always assumed that the weapon is only Ordnance if it says it is.

**Grey Templar**

the description says it is a primary weapon(hence referencing the primary weapon description)

ordinance weapon don't scatter, it says they are large blast weapons unless the weapons profile says otherwise. Ordinance means it rolls 2d6 and picks the highest for armor penetration.

**CT GAMER**

Platuan4th wrote:
JEB_Stuart wrote:
Platuan4th wrote:Grats on the reading fail. St D ignores ALL Saves, even invuls.
Mockery only works when you are right. You DO get to take invuln saves against Destroyer, or D-Weapon, attacks. It says so explicitly in the Apocalypse Book. I quote, "If the target fails to save this wound (no cover saves allowed, as described above, but invulnerable saves do apply) the weapon always..." This is located on pg. 96 of the Apocalypse book and is the only set of rules I have ever heard mentioned for D-weapons. You are undoubtedly mistaking these for vortex grenades, which of course DO ignore all saves.

Looks like we've been playing Destroyer wrong, then.

**jbunny**

I like the D weapon along with the flamer. D opens up the transports and the flamer cooks what lives.

Also if you are letting slow moving Termies get into close combat with you, you are in trouble. The Titans move 12, plus it can fleet 2d6 a turn if it shots no weapons.

As far as being a target, if outsdie 12" you have to get pass the shields first.