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You think Al Capone would beat Jesse James? Only in urban Chicago. Jesse James was a Civil War raider and post war guerilla. Capone was fight.

Interesting tidbit-my mom knew the Capone family in NO. Excellent.

Given that Capone's gang will be armed with semi-auto pistols and submachine guns vs. guys using revolvers and carbines I think it's a safe bet.

Tyyr wrote:Given that Capone's gang will be armed with semi-auto pistols and submachine guns vs. guys using revolvers and carbines I think it's a safe bet.

Then you would be wrong. Country-carbines and rifles win.
Jesse James didn't know what a city was.

Then I guess it depends on the venue. If they start them off at long range in open terrain I'll agree. In a city the James gang gets cut down in short order.

Has anybody been surprised at some of the outsomes so far?

I was expecting Alexander the Great to win over Atilla, as well as Capone over James.

I enjoy the show but some of the "experts" are dubious at best and complete fething morons at worst.
The Viking vs Samurai, they went with the Great Axe, used by Hurscarls. The better 'midrange' weapon is the bearded axe. Plus they made the viking out to be a mindless raging loonie... not some-one skilled at raiding and such.

I think they need to do more standard testing. Grenade in a washing machine.. ok... do the same with the other.

And it was IRA vs Taliban - IRA won
Spetznaz was vs green beret.... Spetz won because the GB 'expert' got sloppy on the pistol test.

These shows are always funny. They seem to randomly pick weapons or implements from the army/group they were in and then employ them randomly. You watch the show if you really hate pig carcasses and want them to die in interesting ways (and see a lame fight scene at the end).

But yea Jesse James uber!

Just saw Centurion vs. Rajput. Wow, was that a gory episode. Both sides had some really sickening equipment (Except for that Aara sword whip, that thing did -all). The punching dagger left some fist-sized holes in the pig carcass and sliced right through chainmail armor, holy crap.

Although once again - why in the world did they use a siege weapon as one of the Centurion's pieces of equipment? I'll concede that the Aara was equally useless (even slightly more so) but seriously, why bother? Alexander had the same issue, a ballista that takes a full minute plus to reload has no place on the battlefield in a one-on-one (or four-on-four as the episode had) match.

Locclo wrote:Just saw Centurion vs. Rajput. Wow, was that a gory episode. Both sides had some really sickening equipment (Except for that Aara sword whip, that thing did -all). The punching dagger left some fist-sized holes in the pig carcass and sliced right through chainmail armor, holy crap.

Although once again - why in the world did they use a siege weapon as one of the Centurion's pieces of equipment? I'll concede that the Aara was equally useless (even slightly more so) but seriously, why bother? Alexander had the same issue, a ballista that takes a full minute plus to reload has no place on the battlefield in a one-on-one (or four-on-four as the episode had) match.

My god that is getting on my nerves as well. I think they are trying to add in some "OH COOL GIANT GUNS" for some reason. I laughed when the Rajput slaughtered the pig with the Katar, and the roman guys was all cocky "well how well will that go through THIS" holds up chainmail. Only to have the katar blow right through the damn thing.

I was rooting for the Rajput and was surprised when they won. I remember that the heart of the show is suppose to be one on one. Yes the Romans were a VERY successful military power, but it was their tactics that did that. And they fought as a unit, together. One on one they werent so hardcore.
I thought the sword whip thing (arra?) looked pretty cool, all that twirling and such, but yea not very effective. If I were a roman solider I would find it cool looking, and then stab him with the spear

Give the experts their armor and dulled weapons. Put them in a room. See how they do. These shows are good only in showing the lethal capability of the weapons (and nthing is etter on at the time).

Short sword vs. long sword in open field, yea the guy with the long sword will win. Long sword vs. guy with kite shield and short sword - usually different story.

But thats also what makes the show so good, it makes you yell at how they are doing these test. Good shows are suppose to make you talk about them.


I still love how they will test say, 2 short swords, yet they will be tested in a different way. Well this guy will get the pig torso, while that guy gets the blood bags? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

You just gotta love all the posturing and Smack talk.... and the guys that get all into the chanting and battle cries.

Yeah, love the show and all but really?

Don't have two different experiments for the same weapon type.

I mean the Chakram and Scorpion from Rajput/Centurion that makes some sense, but then they really shouldn't have been in the same category.

The show isn't about historical accuracy, its all about blood. The times when they have to cut something they hang a carcass by tight ropes, why? So there is tension on the carcass and make it want to split apart. When they tested the pistol whip for Jesse James they put the head on the ground, that's obviously going to have a much stronger affect when the guys head is against the hard ground.

Its really not a strong excuse to all those personal who would win scenarios.

Also german guy at the end of SS/VC = Fail. Who yells like that, and did you see his face? pathetic. Hire some better actors, and make some better flame effects while your at it ya??

It's a silly but fun show. The question itself is stupid, because wars aren't won by the warrior with the best gear, it's won by the most cohesive army, where each part complements the next... well, that plus some consideration for being the more powerful nation economically and polictically.

So yeah, the tests are stupid, but even if they weren't the show would be a nonsense. But in the episodes I've seen the fights at the end are always funny, and isn't that what counts?




Oh, and on Capone and Jesse James... Al Capone was played by de Niro. Jesse James was played by Brad Pitt. The winner is obvious.

Personally, I think DiNero's Capone was WAY better than Pitt's James.
Besides.... Big Al was more of a 'Hey. How are ya? That's great....," THEN, hit you with a baseball bat, kinda guy.

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:As you can see from the tile, pretty self explanatory.

The first episode is SWAT vs. GSG9.

Anybdoy else excited to laugh at the hilariously horribly acted out battle scenes?

here I thought you were talking about the Dakka Deadliest.

Got my hopes up there