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isthatmycow wrote:Well yeah, me and my best friend (who is a hardcore christian) joke around all the time, he calls muhammad a terrorsit, I call Jesus gay, and we joke around, but we respect each other's beliefs. But what was the intention of the artist? From what I've heard, the artist drew those cartoons because he DID hate muslims, and he DID think muhammad was terrorist. i've nothing against jokes, but it's when the jokes aren't just jokes, but malicious, and that's when I get offended, when people are trying to insult you, because they hate you.

So let me get this straight...
A guy, half way around the world, was drawing something dumb, and you actually gave a gak?

I can pretty much say something like that is being drawn any second of any day, about any religion, you've got a lot of feeling offended to do.

Saw the episode and it's pretty funny how these guys are reacting. The whole episode basically is how to depict Mohamed without offending Muslims. Of course they go to the silly lengths to do it. First putting him in a U-haul van. Then the mascot suit since it seems to fit all criteria. None of Mohamed is showing and the suit is padded and what not so even his shape is not shown.
There's also a shot of Buddha snorting coke, no Buddhist outrage yet.

What this reaction basically shows is some Muslims are tight-arsed idiots with no sense of humor and seem to look forward to reasons to be "outraged!".

Not all, not even a majority, but the vocal fringe.

The Green Git wrote:I can see from the quotes no time was wasted dragging Jesus and Glen Beck through the mud. How incredibly imaginative and refreshing.

No one mentioned Jesus.

The only comment directed at Glen Beck dealt with the fact that he profits from the enhancement of anger, which is indisputably true.

The Green Git wrote:
How can anyone in their right mind possibly defend Islamic head sawing feths and try to compare Christians and political opinion show hosts to death threats for cartoons?

No one did any such thing.

A statement was made which indicated that violent extremism is not the sole purview of Islam, and that statement included a reference (among others) to violent, Christian groups. But that does not indicate that all Christians are comparable to militant Islamists, which seems to be the conclusion that you're drawing.

Similarly, the comment about Beck was not a comparison to the act making a death threat, but a comment on the psychological reasons that people watch TV.

The Green Git wrote:
Some people are seriously self deluded.

Yes, some people are.

The Green Git wrote:How can anyone in their right mind possibly defend Islamic head sawing feths and try to compare Christians and political opinion show hosts to death threats for cartoons?

Some people are seriously self deluded.

No one was "defending" them. History will show you just how easy it is to compare.

Close-minded statements like this do you no favors.

Soladrin wrote:Cow, no offense, but what was so bad about those cartoons... can't you take a joke? :\

Other than the fact that they believe there is a mandate from God against it? I would think thats enough.






On a side note, this thread is getting really offensive in itself. While I am not a Muslim I one of my best friends is, so while voicing your opinion on the subject is fine, calling all all Muslims "Stupid as feth" is not. Use some common courtesy people! This is why there is a debate on banning the religion based off-topic threads.

Soladrin wrote:

isthatmycow wrote:Well yeah, me and my best friend (who is a hardcore christian) joke around all the time, he calls muhammad a terrorsit, I call Jesus gay, and we joke around, but we respect each other's beliefs. But what was the intention of the artist? From what I've heard, the artist drew those cartoons because he DID hate muslims, and he DID think muhammad was terrorist. i've nothing against jokes, but it's when the jokes aren't just jokes, but malicious, and that's when I get offended, when people are trying to insult you, because they hate you.

So let me get this straight...
A guy, half way around the world, was drawing something dumb, and you actually gave a gak?

I can pretty much say something like that is being drawn any second of any day, about any religion, you've got a lot of feeling offended to do.

Well he did that like what... 4 years ago? And at that time i was 11, very hot-headed and ws easily angered. I mean, it doesn't bother me now, but of course when some says *insert offesive racist term here* to me, I get angry, like moest would, but it's not like i'm gonna murder your family for. I just get angry and get over it 98 seconds later.

Saw the episode and it's pretty funny how these guys are reacting. The whole episode basically is how to depict Mohamed without offending Muslims. Of course they go to the silly lengths to do it. First putting him in a U-haul van. Then the mascot suit since it seems to fit all criteria. None of Mohamed is showing and the suit is padded and what not so even his shape is not shown.

So what you are saying here is that you saw the episode, and yet still don't understand that the episode is about making fun of certain religious rules?

There's also a shot of Buddha snorting coke, no Buddhist outrage yet.

That has got to be the most idiotic thing I have seen in a long time... Congratulations

What this reaction basically shows is some Muslims are tight-arsed idiots with no sense of humor and seem to look forward to reasons to be "outraged!".

Not all, not even a majority, but the vocal fringe.

Do you even know anyone that is Muslim? That is one of the most offensive responses yet. While it is a small minority of Muslims that would act upon their outrage, I would say the vast majority are offended. I assume that you yourself are not religious and therefor have no idea how strong feelings are regarding mandates from god.


Do you think someone keeping Kosher would be happy if you fed them pork? How is displaying a picture of the Prophet any different? Its a direct violation of the word of god.

Clthomps wrote:

Saw the episode and it's pretty funny how these guys are reacting. The whole episode basically is how to depict Mohamed without offending Muslims. Of course they go to the silly lengths to do it. First putting him in a U-haul van. Then the mascot suit since it seems to fit all criteria. None of Mohamed is showing and the suit is padded and what not so even his shape is not shown.

So what you are saying here is that you saw the episode, and yet still don't understand that the episode is about making fun of certain religious rules?

There's also a shot of Buddha snorting coke, no Buddhist outrage yet.

That has got to be the most idiotic thing I have seen in a long time... Congratulations

What this reaction basically shows is some Muslims are tight-arsed idiots with no sense of humor and seem to look forward to reasons to be "outraged!".

Not all, not even a majority, but the vocal fringe.

Do you even know anyone that is Muslim? That is one of the most offensive responses yet. While it is a small minority of Muslims that would act upon their outrage, I would say the vast majority are offended. I assume that you yourself are not religious and therefor have no idea how strong feelings are regarding mandates from god.

Do you think someone keeping Kosher would be happy if you fed them pork? How is displaying a picture of the Prophet any different? Its a direct violation of the word of god.

And you seem to be talking out of your ass

Everyone gets offended. I get offended at my own breath. So what?

Not so vague threats that you are going to stab cartoonists to death in the streets should be universally responded to with derision, distate, and maybe some nice hacker attacks (or JDAM if in the correct jurisdiction). This group's (and I am not saying Muslims I am saying these nutjobs) right to be offended ends at my nose. In the rest of the civilized world a proper response is using your own freedom of speech.

Modquisition on. Having said that I posted the thread to make fun of these nutjobs. Lets all remember Rule #1 and be polite to other posters.

Frazzled wrote:
Modquisition on. Having said that I posted the thread to make fun of these nutjobs. Lets all remember Rule #1 and be polite to other posters.

But they make it so hard... ( or should I say easy? )

Soladrin wrote:

Clthomps wrote:

Saw the episode and it's pretty funny how these guys are reacting. The whole episode basically is how to depict Mohamed without offending Muslims. Of course they go to the silly lengths to do it. First putting him in a U-haul van. Then the mascot suit since it seems to fit all criteria. None of Mohamed is showing and the suit is padded and what not so even his shape is not shown.

So what you are saying here is that you saw the episode, and yet still don't understand that the episode is about making fun of certain religious rules?

There's also a shot of Buddha snorting coke, no Buddhist outrage yet.

That has got to be the most idiotic thing I have seen in a long time... Congratulations

What this reaction basically shows is some Muslims are tight-arsed idiots with no sense of humor and seem to look forward to reasons to be "outraged!".

Not all, not even a majority, but the vocal fringe.

Do you even know anyone that is Muslim? That is one of the most offensive responses yet. While it is a small minority of Muslims that would act upon their outrage, I would say the vast majority are offended. I assume that you yourself are not religious and therefor have no idea how strong feelings are regarding mandates from god.

Do you think someone keeping Kosher would be happy if you fed them pork? How is displaying a picture of the Prophet any different? Its a direct violation of the word of god.

And you seem to be talking out of your ass

Would you care to actually make a point or do you always respond with such childish remarks?

Depends on the day of the week.

But, I think that comment spoke for itself.

I don't like people with those tall horses.. you know...

Modquisition on. One more time guys. Lets keep this one polite.

A simple "no, I have nothing intelligent to say" would have sufficed.

I'm just going to heed Frazzies second warning and not bother with you.

Clthomps wrote:A simple "no, I have nothing intelligent to say" would have sufficed.

No I have nothing intelligent to say.

Someone should let loose the hounds of 4chan upon revolutionmuslim.com.

Let's see them make death threats towards entertainers while their threads are full of child porn.

RustyKnight wrote:Someone should let loose the hounds of 4chan upon revolutionmuslim.com.

Let's see them make death threats towards entertainers while their threads are full of child porn.

Now that is executive thinking!

LOL, i think you could call the 4chan crowds radicals too xD

RustyKnight wrote:Someone should let loose the hounds of 4chan upon revolutionmuslim.com.

Let's see them make death threats towards entertainers while their threads are full of child porn.

And that's a very mild punishment considering.

I once remember reading about a time one member hacked into a White Supremacy site and made each link in the menu go to a rather infamous video of a horse humping some guy until he died.

Nuff' said.

Clthomps wrote:Do you think someone keeping Kosher would be happy if you ate pork yourself? How is displaying a picture of the Prophet any different? Its a direct violation of the word of god.

Fixed it for you, because your example really wasn't comparable.

There is a huge difference between trying to force someone into violating their own religious beliefs, and violating their religious beliefs yourself. Islam says you shouldn't depict the prophet Muhammad. Hinduism says you shouldn't eat beef. Catholicism says you shouldn't have sex out of wedlock. None of this gives the religious the right to declare that others cannot do these things, no matter how strongly they believe that it's a "mandate from God" that they don't.

Hah, yea I remember that, respect for the hacker.

Orkeosaurus wrote:Hinduism says you shouldn't eat beef.

That actually isn't quite right, but close enough. Judaism also doesn't allow for man-made representations of g-d.

Orkeosaurus wrote:

Clthomps wrote:Do you think someone keeping Kosher would be happy if you ate pork yourself? How is displaying a picture of the Prophet any different? Its a direct violation of the word of god.

Fixed it for you, because your example really wasn't comparable.

There is a huge difference between trying to force someone into violating their own religious beliefs, and violating their religious beliefs yourself. Islam says you shouldn't depict the prophet Muhammad. Hinduism says you shouldn't eat beef. Catholicism says you shouldn't have sex out of wedlock. None of this gives the religious the right to declare that others cannot do these things, no matter how strongly they believe that it's a "mandate from God" that they don't.

Correct, it's hard to find a comparable example that the average reader would be familiar with. The real difference is that Islam does have rules on how society should act, since its traditions were written after the creation of Islamic states. I suppose its equivalent to killing a cow around a Hindu while they are not doing the act themselves they are witnessing it, and more than likely having strong feelings against it.


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Judaism also doesn't allow for man-made representations of g-d.

In Islam the Muhammad is a prophet not a god.

I'm trying to put this as non-offensive as I can.

It's South Park. Get the feth over it. They've been doing stuff like this for, oh look, 200 episodes!

I don't think I can contribute any more to this thread.

This is a case of people who hold nothing sacred being unable to understand a group who hold something so sacred as to go to extreme violent acts to defend it.

Back to the topic, has anyone else noticed that RevolutionMuslim.com is down. Maybe 4-chan did get to them

Clthomps wrote:
In Islam the Muhammad is a prophet not a god.

And the prohibition of depictions of the prophet (and God) comes, primarily, from the Hadith, not the Koran. Therefore the prohibition is not necessarily a derivation of the Word of God, though many Muslims may believe that.

lol extremists, they're like "that guy" at your GW or LFGS.


Hopefully when they decide to show Muhammad he'll look better than this : /

isthatmycow wrote: Then I ain't got no beef with them, and all my other muslim friends would say the same.

What about pork?