What is your Army's most powerful unit, and why?

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**Sanctjud**

Yea, the biker squad like that really relies on hitting alot of things at the same time.
FC is maximized by the 5 IC's in the squad, all with power weapons.
Then there are a boat load of fists if TM's survive.

I only use that squad in a doubles, just for the lols. It's funny initiating a charge that stretches out 24" across

**EagleArk**

10 TH/SS terminators with vulcan and lysander, most powerful unit in SM codex.

**ductvader**

EagleArk wrote:10 TH/SS terminators with vulcan and lysander, most powerful unit in SM codex.

Makes me wish I had working Stormshields for DH...mine are old school crap.

**WarWizard91**

Executioner w/ plasma sponsons. On the expensive end of leman russ variants but well worth the cost, especially when it comes to those annoying nurgle marines.

**EagleArk**

Oh an if i could i would stick a chaplin in there for rerolls on the charge...

EagleArk.

**scarskull5**

768 necron warriors.
Why are they good? Because their 768 necron warriors.

**ductvader**

scarskull5 wrote:768 necron warriors.
Why are they good? Because their 768 necron warriors.

They don't have a unit size restriction?

**Praxiss**

Hmmmm, tough question.

I think i would go for a 10 man units of Chaos terminator Champions. 5 Chainsfists, 5 Twin LCs. Plus MoT for the 4++ save.

Probably deploy them along with a Chaos Termie Lord with twin LCs. Maybe even a Termei Sorcerer.

Expensive but would rip through tanks and infantry quite happily.

**Sanctjud**

And not fearless, so they could very well break (with more and more ld changing abilities introduced) and run off the board, or even /shock & horror: get run down in combat.

**Praxiss**

True, but would still be a nasty unit to have.

From what i hear the new "must have" termie unit is a squad of BA assault termies with a Chaplain and a Sanguinary Priest.

Re-roll to hit and wound (with twin LCs) and also FNP from the priest.

**Sanctjud**

The issue is then delivery.
The Loyalist codices do it better...

**Praxiss**

true again, being abel to carry more termies per LR does favour the loyalist Termie squads.

Ok, fine Chaos termei squads suck.

Although i do quite like the Apoc "Doombringer Annihilation" formation. 15 Termies (minimum) deep striking on a Lord with personal icon. Yummy

**Guitardian**

It's a bit more complicated with eldar, because it is all so mutually supportive. I think points-for-power a squad of 3 warwalkers with scatterlasers being accompanied by a guideseer is pretty efficient. that's 24 x S6 shots at 36" rerolling misses. Not too shabby. As far as just straight asskicking goes (points notwithstanding) I think Fuegan and a squad of dragons in a holofalcon will pretty much demolish anything you point it at (and cost about half your army's points too... which is why I don't use that)

**daedalus**

Platoon Infantry Squad, 50 strong.
5 powerfists, 5 boltpistols for sergeants,
5 commissars with powerfists
5 meltaguns,
5 lascannons
Attached Yarrick
and... INFINITY PRIESTS!

Completely unstoppable.

**Mekboy**

Fully equipped unit of 9 nobs lead by Ghazzy and a Mekboy in a trukk. I generally use it only in 1000 point games (in 1500 I prefer to have more units), where it takes up about 800 points. It gets even better when the opponent clumps their forces up.

**Kevin949**

10 immortals, attached lord, res orb, phase shifter, add other wargear as necessary. Probably the most survivable squad I field. Unfortunately there aren't many options for necrons. Coupled with a monolith for extra WBB rolls and pulling out of CC and they're quite a force.

Though if we're just talking sheer power on paper then obviously the C'Tan choices would win that award.

**TheDiffidentOne**

Warlordron'swaagh wrote:Diffident one, 5 thunder hammer hits each? Pretty sure our squads would wipe each other out, lol!

Yeah, that's what usually happens with squads like this. They can chew through almost anything, with the exception of another one like them. Then they eradicate each other.

**Inquisitor_Syphonious**

Super-council
-Yriel
-10 Warlocks
-2 Embolden
-2 Enhance
-Eldrad
-Wave Serpent

Point and win interface.

It could wreck most of the units here, barring the obvious 10 TH/SS terminators seeing as I only have a handful of power weapon attacks. Though I would munch the normal terminators.

High initiative, hits on 3's wounds on 2's, oh yeah.

**Guitardian**

Nah dude... forget the WS, put them all on bikes if you really want to get silly with it. Toss in a couple of singy spears on the embolden and enhance guys... hmm.. ditch Yriel for a speartarch.. thats about 400 points of characters and 700 points of squad, and a year or two of meticulously converting biker warlocks though, so I stray away from that one. Too lazy to convert that much metal... oh but how fun it would be if I did have all those warlocks.

**JSK-Fox**

My best unit would have to be my Terminators - they come in via deep strike right beside my dad's Lootas. Let's just say there is only a big mek left when they are done

The best possible, IMHO, is Assault Termies + TH/SS and a Land Raider Redeemer.

**Inquisitor_Syphonious**

Guitardian wrote:Nah dude... forget the WS, put them all on bikes if you really want to get silly with it. Toss in a couple of singy spears on the embolden and enhance guys... hmm.. ditch Yriel for a speartarch.. thats about 400 points of characters and 700 points of squad, and a year or two of meticulously converting biker warlocks though, so I stray away from that one. Too lazy to convert that much metal... oh but how fun it would be if I did have all those warlocks.

Yeah though that will crumple against certain units the foot council can trump, also, it is alot cheaper. My seer council always wins.

**Insanityphr33k**

If I could:

2 archons
punisher
tormentor helm
drugs
shadowfield on 1
both with raiders
and 10 incubi

or:

As many haemonculus as i can fit in, all with RJB's, drugs, and all there weapons, with 3 maxed out squads of RJB's, each with a succubus with punisher.

now what I would actually have in my army:

...3 ravagers with dissies. this will blow up most nearly everything in the game, and failing that a dozen dark lances to murder all those pesky MC's and transports..and occasionally land raiders.

I love my 2k list lord(s) but they wont cut it against the best of the best melee units, or if i do its on good rolls and lots of drugs (yay drugs).

**candy.man**

The most powerful unit chaos could probably manage would be 8 terminator champions, 6 combi meltas, 2 heavy flamers, 4 single lightning claws, 4 chain fists, Icon of Tzeench with Abaddon and Typhus in a LR with daemonic possession or extra armour and a havoc launcher.

Sure this unit is horribly expensive and other MEQ do it better (*cough BA *cough*) but it is powerful.

**I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly**

Y'know, I kind of interpreted the original question as being 'what powerful unit do you actually use, and have perform well'. Not 'how ridiculously huge, powerful and unwieldy unit can be brought forth from a legal codex'.

So on the basis of that, I say fire dragons (6) in a wave serpent is the most effective unit in my army. Blows stuff up, cheap.

**MinMax**

candy.man wrote:The most powerful unit chaos could probably manage would be 8 terminator champions, 6 combi meltas, 2 heavy flamers, 4 single lightning claws, 4 chain fists, Icon of Tzeench with Abaddon and Typhus in a LR with daemonic possession or extra armour and a havoc launcher.

Sure this unit is horribly expensive and other MEQ do it better (*cough BA *cough*) but it is powerful.

You can't fit, uh, 10 Terminators in a Land Raider. Their capacity is limited to 5 models with TDA, or 10 models without.

**nosferatu1001**

Nob bikers are "in theory" powerful, but there's a reason their time in the sun was about 4 months - they're easily countered, either by objective placement (cant go up ruins) or by lash, PSB/Neural Shredder, etc.

Lash is fun - double lash you through terrain, leaving you inside it. one set of DT tests for everyone. Want to leave the terrain so your CC powerhouse can hit stuff? Another set of DT checks. Rinse, repeat until the unit kills itself.

**candy.man**

MinMax wrote:
candy.man wrote:The most powerful unit chaos could probably manage would be 8 terminator champions, 6 combi meltas, 2 heavy flamers, 4 single lightning claws, 4 chain fists, Icon of Tzeench with Abaddon and Typhus in a LR with daemonic possession or extra armour and a havoc launcher.

Sure this unit is horribly expensive and other MEQ do it better (*cough BA *cough*) but it is powerful.

You can't fit, uh, 10 Terminators in a Land Raider. Their capacity is limited to 5 models with TDA, or 10 models without.

My bad. Nice catch. Don't know what I was thinking *smacks forehead*. Must not have been thinking straight. It was hellish busy at work today and I typed the post fairly quickly. The amended deathstar unit is below.

The most powerful unit chaos could probably manage would be 10 terminator champions, 8 combi meltas, 2 heavy flamers, 5 single lightning claws, 5 chain fists, Icon of Tzeench with Abaddon and Typhus deepstriking into cover for vicious assault in the following turn.

**Ail-Shan**

My go-to guy is Fuegan. Not even with dragons. Just Fuegan. And he gets his own personal falcon. He's been quite the guy in most of my games.

Of course, he doesn't stand a chance against all of your termies and power weapon wielding squads.

**Sanctjud**

@candy.man:
Deepstriking means the earliest assault will be turn 3...against an idiot of an opponent, so realistically turn 4-5...it allows you to do very little.

If you shoot when DSing in, then you are not running out of pie plate formation.
If you go into terrain, 1/6 will get a wound and then 1/2 will live or die of those 1/6.

In addition, that footprint is pretty big, mishaps are gakky for a unit like that.

No, there is no cost-effective/consistantly performing 'Death Star' for Chaos compared to other armies.

If you had to pick one it would either be Prince, Plagues, a heavy support.

**alexwars1**

Imperator Titan. Suck it, everything else.