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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/27 11:24:28
Subject: Eldar 2500 pt ard boyz, please review
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1st Lieutenant
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Blobs with commissars are nasty as tarpits, but against orks they'll break due to fearless wounds and if you do it right you can multi-assault and kill a unit or two at once.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/27 11:49:03
Subject: Eldar 2500 pt ard boyz, please review
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Charging Dragon Prince
Chicago, IL, U.S.A.
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I thought a commissar attatched to a blob still counts as IC no matter how big the blob. Did that change? (haven't played against IG using commissar since 4th, and only briefly browsed the new Codex... sorry if it's a dumb question)
So a commissar who is able to hit is able to be hit and that's just no good for the conscripts when he gets instakilled for being kind of a punk anyways, PF or not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/27 16:05:28
Subject: Re:Eldar 2500 pt ard boyz, please review
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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How about this list?
HQ
Edrad = 210
5x Warlocks w/ spears, 1 Enhance, 1 Embolden = 160
Wave Serpent w/ BL, shuriken cannon, spirit stones = 155
Autarch w/ fusion gun = 80
Elites
5x Fire Dragons = 80
Wave Serpent w/ EML, shuriken cannon, spirit stones = 140
5x Fire Dragons = 80
Wave Serpent w/ EML, shuriken cannon, spirit stones = 140
5x Fire Dragons = 80
Wave Serpent w/ EML, shuriken cannon, spirit stones = 140
Troops
5xDA = 60
Wave Serpent w/ Scatter laser, shuriken cannon, spirit stones = 135
5xDA = 60
Wave Serpent w/ Scatter laser, shuriken cannon, spirit stones = 135
5xDA = 60
Wave Serpent w/ Scatter laser, shuriken cannon, spirit stones = 135
5xDA = 60
Wave Serpent w/ Scatter laser, shuriken cannon, spirit stones = 135
Heavy
3x Warwalkers w/ 2x scatterlasers = 180
Fire Prism w/ spirit stones, shuriken cannon = 135
Fire Prism w/ spirit stones, shuriken cannon = 135
Total = 2495
The alternative to the warlocks is to scrounge up another 5 man DA unit to occupy the wave serpent, and then upgrade a fire dragon squad to wraithguard...
and yeah, I hear you on the reorganization of the wave serpents thing. It makes sense the Dire Avengers should ride in AT serpents and AT uits should get the AP serpents, I'll play with that later.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/27 18:01:06
Subject: Eldar 2500 pt ard boyz, please review
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Tilter at Windmills
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Looks more viable. I'd definitely swap the EMLs over to the DA serpents. As noted, the cross of roles is useful. Plus you're much more likely to have some or all of those serpents hanging back as far as they can get from the enemy, or circling around a flank. Either way they're more likely to get utility out of the 48" range of the EML.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/27 21:24:27
Subject: Eldar 2500 pt ard boyz, please review
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Yeah, the serpent thing makes plenty of sense, I had a similar concept going (with my non-ard boyz lists) but I wasnt really thinking along those lines when I decided to enter the tourny.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/27 21:55:00
Subject: Eldar 2500 pt ard boyz, please review
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Charging Dragon Prince
Chicago, IL, U.S.A.
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That last list is by far the slickest. Good job man. I am assuming that Autarch is there for playing reserves, not to be a hero or anything. Good idea.
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Retroactively applied infallability is its own reward. I wish I knew this years ago.
 I am Red/White Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I'm both chaotic and orderly. I value my own principles, and am willing to go to extreme lengths to enforce them, often trampling on the very same principles in the process. At best, I'm heroic and principled; at worst, I'm hypocritical and disorderly. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/27 22:07:02
Subject: Eldar 2500 pt ard boyz, please review
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Yep, but if I find it necessary he gives me the ability to take out an additional vehicle per turn (with some intelligent maneuvering, etc.)
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