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Stormrider wrote:
I doubt he will. He is the Glorious Leader, sharing isn't something he comprehends, even though his political ideology is based on forced sharing.

North Korea is only rhetorically communist.

dogma wrote:

Stormrider wrote:
I doubt he will. He is the Glorious Leader, sharing isn't something he comprehends, even though his political ideology is based on forced sharing.

North Korea is only rhetorically communist.

True, there really has never been a true Communist country in the world. There has always been an upper caste of the ruling elite. They, holding all the power, will never willingly let it go.

I'd rather hit a country with an EMP. Send them back to the stone age.

Stormrider wrote:

dogma wrote:

Stormrider wrote:
I doubt he will. He is the Glorious Leader, sharing isn't something he comprehends, even though his political ideology is based on forced sharing.

North Korea is only rhetorically communist.

True, there really has never been a true Communist country in the world. There has always been an upper caste of the ruling elite. They, holding all the power, will never willingly let it go.

Lenin tried hard to make one, but Stalin pretty much took that idea out back and shot it in the head.

BaronIveagh wrote:

Stormrider wrote:

dogma wrote:

Stormrider wrote:
I doubt he will. He is the Glorious Leader, sharing isn't something he comprehends, even though his political ideology is based on forced sharing.

North Korea is only rhetorically communist.

True, there really has never been a true Communist country in the world. There has always been an upper caste of the ruling elite. They, holding all the power, will never willingly let it go.

Lenin tried hard to make one, but Stalin pretty much took that idea out back and shot it in the head.

Yes, like everything Stalin disagreed with, Lenin was a true Communist, he held no animosity against people except Capitalists and people he viewed as exploiters of the Proletariat.

It's pretty ironic, I am a staunch Capitlaist and a Liberarian Socially, yet, I know a lot about Communists and how they work. I have always felt Che Guevara was a Stalin-like thug, nothing more.



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Fateweaver wrote:I'd rather hit a country with an EMP. Send them back to the stone age.

That's North Korea's or Iran's plan with us. Wouldn't be that hard, launch a Nuke to detonate above our airpsace. Goodbye electronics (and whoever launched it).

North Korea: The politician's version of Dilbert. Complete with pointy haired boss. Who is apparently eternal.

Should they actually prove it, hats off to them. A broken clock is right twice a day. And I applaud the country who will get the science genius via wonderful bribery and/or daring rescue of a kidnapped scientist, if the press hears about it.

Should they fail, I might take bets on what happens to whom. And will be in dire want of the expressions on Mr. Kim's face when it fizzles.

Either way, it'll be entertaining to watch. Success or failure, North Korea provides me with reasons to eat popcorn.

Stormrider wrote:True, there really has never been a true Communist country in the world. There has always been an upper caste of the ruling elite. They, holding all the power, will never willingly let it go.

There would have to be a shared agreement on the end state of a communist society for one to ever actually be formed. While Marx’s understanding of class, economics and social structure was incredibly insightful for the time, his predictions of the final outcome of this are vague and quite silly.

Exactly how is a dictatorship of the proletariat supposed to work?

BaronIveagh wrote:Lenin tried hard to make one, but Stalin pretty much took that idea out back and shot it in the head.

Nah, Lenin was basically a tyrant too. So was Trotsky. They probably wouldn’t have committed the purges Stalin undertook, but they were pretty intent on maintaining absolute state control.

If there was to be a more moderate Russian Communist state it would have come from the Mensheviks, who argued for something closer to a social democracy. Lenin hounded them into non-existance.

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rowan341 wrote:Ah ok. But surely it will still need to use low atomic mass elements otherwise it would need huge energy to start it unless it doesn't actualy do fusion.

In general its an H to He reaction.

I know it is H to He usualy I have already said that. It's just that I can't see how fusion would work in a weaponised form.

rowan341 wrote:I know it is H to HE usualy I have already said that. It's just that I can't see how fusion would work in a weaponised form.

Firstly it's He, not HE.

Secondly, it make big boom!

sebster wrote:... his predictions of the final outcome of this are vague and quite silly.

And consistent with a system based on free enterprise.

Yeah, suck it Adam Smith.

sebster wrote:
Exactly how is a dictatorship of the proletariat supposed to work?

As a democracy.

So if NK doesn't end up like a certain other place, they could become the battery of the future.

Gwar! wrote:

rowan341 wrote:I know it is H to HE usualy I have already said that. It's just that I can't see how fusion would work in a weaponised form.

Firstly it's He, not HE.

Secondly, it make big boom!

sticky shift key. and I would quite like to know how this idea works.

n0t_u wrote:So if NK doesn't end up like a certain other place, they could become the battery of the future.

Yeah I see that as a very big potential problem.

on another subject did you know America has over 8 times more nuclear missiles than are needed to create a post apocalyptic situation. I want to know what their military is planning

Yep there was a thread about it before, US has what 3000ish or 5000ish Nuclear weapons.

5138 and if my info is correct you only need 600ish

rowan341 wrote:5138 and if my info is correct you only need 600ish

Good "currency" to have.

Heh, yeah apart from if any of it goes to another country it would likely start a nuclear apocalypse.

Well you see according to Hollywood (where most of our politicians get their scientific knowledge) Nuclear weapons can be used for darn near anything from killing off an alien mother ship as in Independence Day, to stopping a planet killer meteor as in Armageddon, even stopping oil spills, but that last bit came from credible Russian scientists and not Michael Bay so we're treating it with all due skepticism. So you see we're just keeping ourselves ready and preparing for a safer tomorrow.

@ rowan341: 5,138? Our last inventory count only showed 5,137... SECURITY!!!!

ComputerGeek01 wrote:Well you see according to Hollywood (where most of our politicians get their scientific knowledge) Nuclear weapons can be used for darn near anything from killing off an alien mother ship as in Independence Day, to stopping a planet killer meteor as in Armageddon, even stopping oil spills, but that last bit came from credible Russian scientists and not Michael Bay so we're treating it with all due skepticism. So you see we're just keeping ourselves ready and preparing for a safer tomorrow.

@ rowan341: 5,138? Our last inventory count only showed 5,137... SECURITY!!!!

That's my bad. They weren't supposed to count them for at least a few months.

heh. What do you think you're looking at. *covers an exposed end of a metal tube*

Black boxes with jump leads emiting from them. Containing a hamster wheel, a dynamo, and hamsters on PCP.

"Ahhh, yes! Rook at the erectricity crackering! Cracker cracker!"

where the hell will they test it? south korea? gak my girlfriend is south korean...... this is probbly another nk hoax to make jongy look like a great leader.

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