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Navigators are psykers, according to Rogue Trader (the roleplaying game that is).

Librarians are not pure combat psykers, they have duties beyond combat )though they certainly can use their powers in combat, which TT represents fairly well).

Primaris psykers are actually far more powerful in fluff than they are in game.

Melissia wrote:
Primaris psykers are actually far more powerful in fluff than they are in game.

Much like some Chaos Sorcerors I could name...

Psykers in general really didn't get much love this edition (AND you must re-roll your perils invulnerable saves for your inferior weapons HAHAHAHA).


Seriously though.

Multi Melta: Str 8, AP 1, Melta 24" 15pts
Bolt of Change: Str 8, AP 1, Psychic Shooting Weapon 24" 25pts

Actually it was mostly in third/fourth that psykers didn't get much love. There are some damned powerful psykers in fifth, even if GW had an aneurysm and made Primaris Psykres the pathetic HQ choice nobody takes.

Tigurius, Mephiston, Njal, the Doom of Malan'tai....

Melissia wrote:Actually it was mostly in third/fourth that psykers didn't get much love. There are some damned powerful psykers in fifth, even if GW had an aneurysm and made Primaris Psykres the pathetic HQ choice nobody takes.

Tigurius, Mephiston, Njal, the Doom of Malan'tai....

You're thinking Commissar Lord

Blood Ravens fluff has them fielding a combat squad of all psychers, so 10 libbys is not all that far fetched. Consider creating a power-armor version of the IG psycher unit that has access to two shooting powers, one dependent on the number of units in the squad.

I like the 1-3 per elite slot idea, allow them to take a limited number of options (maybe not termie armor) and can only have 1 psycic power. Stat them as a 2 wound sergeant and call them 75 pts?

Vladsimpaler wrote:

Melissia wrote:Actually it was mostly in third/fourth that psykers didn't get much love. There are some damned powerful psykers in fifth, even if GW had an aneurysm and made Primaris Psykres the pathetic HQ choice nobody takes.

Tigurius, Mephiston, Njal, the Doom of Malan'tai....

You're thinking Commissar Lord

Actually the Lord Commissar is fairly popular, especially amongst all-veterans players or as a secondary choice.

rashad wrote:Blood Ravens fluff has them fielding a combat squad of all psychers, so 10 libbys is not all that far fetched. Consider creating a power-armor version of the IG psycher unit that has access to two shooting powers, one dependent on the number of units in the squad.

My vote gose to this guy. nice, simple, and easy for me to understand


here is the Aspiering sorcer's stats

WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv
4 4 4 4 1 4 2 10 3+ 5++

bigmek35 wrote:

rashad wrote:Blood Ravens fluff has them fielding a combat squad of all psychers, so 10 libbys is not all that far fetched. Consider creating a power-armor version of the IG psycher unit that has access to two shooting powers, one dependent on the number of units in the squad.

My vote gose to this guy. nice, simple, and easy for me to understand


here is the Aspiering sorcer's stats

WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv
4 4 4 4 1 4 2 10 3+ 5++

I don't know where you got that from. A Chaos Space Marine Aspiring Sorceror has 1 wound and a 4+ invulnerable. He has a force weapon and one power that he pays for. He can make two psychic tests per turn.

Oh, I suppose way back in the third edition their profile would've looked like that...

Nitros14 wrote:

bigmek35 wrote:

rashad wrote:Blood Ravens fluff has them fielding a combat squad of all psychers, so 10 libbys is not all that far fetched. Consider creating a power-armor version of the IG psycher unit that has access to two shooting powers, one dependent on the number of units in the squad.

My vote gose to this guy. nice, simple, and easy for me to understand


here is the Aspiering sorcer's stats

WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv
4 4 4 4 1 4 2 10 3+ 5++

I don't know where you got that from. A Chaos Space Marine Aspiring Sorceror has 1 wound and a 4+ invulnerable. He has a force weapon and one power that he pays for. He can make two psychic tests per turn.

Oh, I suppose way back in the third edition their profile would've looked like that...

I got that from my codex and sorry i think i wrote it wrong, here is how it should look

WS 4 BS 4 S 4 T 4 W 1 I 4 A 2 Ld 10 Sv 3+ 4++


there its from the codex i read

Are the blood ravens a fallen chapter the way you play? Where does the sorcerer bit come in from?

Kinda off the wall hear, but what if Blood Ravens Chapter Tactics gave each sergeant model a "combi-power" which is essentially any Space Marine Psychic power that they can only use once per game?

Commander Endova, you have just made the most awesome chapter tactic ever. I would think that this was good but for the thought of sternies jumping around randomly because of their own little psyker.

Just as another suggestion, a combi-force weapon (1 use per game, otherwise used as a power weapon)?

cosmic pixie wrote:Commander Endova, you have just made the most awesome chapter tactic ever. I would think that this was good but for the thought of sternies jumping around randomly because of their own little psyker.

Just as another suggestion, a combi-force weapon (1 use per game, otherwise used as a power weapon)?

Haha. Thanks.

Sure, some units could be a little over powered by Gate of Infinity, but remember, once they're where they are, they're stuck there, since the can't GoI anywhere else. Sure, you could teleport some Sternguard to an advantageous position, but there's a good chance they'd be cut of and destroyed.

I like the combi-force weapon thing. Being able to have that instead of a combi-power would be a hard choice.

If he could have two powers he'd br an epistolary, it should only really be one power and only 20p... Should be way higher than that.

I reckon 35pts is a better idea.