If I used a piece of the Berlin Wall in one of my model's bases, would you be offended?

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**JSK-Fox**

Since I'm not from the states, can somebody tell me what the feth the 'Alamo' is?
Anyways, I'd use the berlin wall piece as a large piece of terrain, but using it as a base is perfectly fine.

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

Google is your friend
And you will find that Alamo was a character from the much loved series "Sesame Street" which is why Frazzled will horse whip you with some dude I have never heard of.

The Berlin Wall was a symbol of division and repression.
Very apt for a 40K base.

**Frazzled**

Its also a car rental dealership. Taking a piece of a car is just wrong.

**CT GAMER**

JSK-Fox wrote:Since I'm not from the states, can somebody tell me what the feth the 'Alamo' is?

The redneck version of Braveheart...

**JSK-Fox**

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Google is your friend
And you will find that Alamo was a character from the much loved series "Sesame Street" which is why Frazzled will horse whip you with some dude I have never heard of.

I think it was Elmo. Elmo is one badass mother

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**Grabzak Dirtyfighter**

I use a piece of mayan pottery for a change cup if that makes you feel any better...

**Grunt_For_Christ**

My uncle's father was a die hard Hitler supporter until the day he died. My uncle, who speaks German fluently (as does most of the family), despised that part of our heritage.

He has a giant piece of the wall he broke himself in his living room as a memorial to the end of a terrible time in history. The day the wall fell he flew back to snag it. For him it symbolizes almost a breaking of the chains... Germans got their true culture back when the wall fell and he considers it a very good thing.

For me it means none of that. I know the history, but wasn't there and don't know anyone who was. It's a symbol that's completely open to interpretation. I think it would be great if it looks good because only you'll know the history. And ultimately if when you died someone had it and didn't know the history behind it, wouldn't it just be a nice conversion with no backstory?

**Frazzled**

CT GAMER wrote:
JSK-Fox wrote:Since I'm not from the states, can somebody tell me what the feth the 'Alamo' is?

The redneck version of Braveheart...

Blasphemer! The Alamo is sacred to all true Americans. You must be one of those godless commie pinkoes that build walls that people eventually use to base their minis, or worse someone who talks during a movie. Well, in Texas we have ways of dealing with scoundrels.

**CT GAMER**

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

Calm down Frazzled
Good grief man how and why you Tex's and Mex's get so wound up over a goddam muppet is beyond my understanding

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**CT GAMER**

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Calm down Frazzled
Good grief man how and why you Tex's and Mex's get so wound up over a goddam muppet is beyond my understanding

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I prefer Tickle Me Alamo...

**MajorTom11**

How about a more interesting, recent touchy topic. What if he used a piece of the World Trade Center?

**c34r34lk1ll3r**

Wouldn't care.

**Saphos**

Well, I am German and I say go for it if you think it being a proper use of your property. You will always find someone who will be offended regardless of what you do. Being the historian that I am by profession, I´d personally find it more interesting to preserve it in its current state but I would not find it particularly offensive. As others have pointed out, it is a reminder of a quite dark time in the history of my country, a sign of stark oppression and violence and thus quite fitting to the background of 40k indeed. There are plenty of pieces of the wall in museums worldwide so the loss of one piece is not especially problematic. Now if you´d want to make a banner out of the canvas of the Mona Lisa or something similar, I´d object quite violently. ^^

**Karon**

I still think my solution is the best.

**Thunderjaw**

I say go for it...

I've got an Alpha Legion army who all have pieces of slate from Old Calton Cemetery in Edinburgh Scotland on the bases. They were from the area where the Abraham Lincoln Memorial stands... the only US Civil War memorial outside the US.

No reason why I used them really... I just liked the rocks...

**Albatross**

MajorTom11 wrote:How about a more interesting, recent touchy topic. What if he used a piece of the World Trade Center?

I think that might be going a bit too far. As would using a piece of rock from Auschwitz.

I mean, you have to question why you are doing it in situation like that. To make some sort of point? Probably not the best way to do it.

But I think using a piece of the Berlin Wall is OK, if a bit pointless.

**terribletrygon**

Should be fine. I mean, most Germans won't be offended, as it is not like they respect what the wall stood for. Pro-Commies might get offended, but that is okay, because Pro-Commies aren't even real people and their days are numbered.

I say, go for it.

**Blokus**

As a real life brick and mortar wall I find this thread in poor taste. Maybe I will dig up one of your dead and construct a Vampire Counts skeleton unit champion from their finger bones!

**LordCreed**

Not if you show the finished model..

**JDM**

It would be like, wow, do I really want to shoot your Commissar with my Punisher Cannons? I mean, its Historical....

**Necanor**

I'm german, and I'm not offended so why should someone else be?

**irtaco**

It'd be really awesome.

**Luco**

If it were the last remaining piece of the wall I would demand that you donate it to a museum somewhere. Since it isn't, go ahead.

**carmachu**

Unless you cut it out yourself, are you sure its one?

Wouldnt bother me either way....

**Fafnir**

Necanor wrote:I'm german, and I'm not offended so why should someone else be?

I'm just saying, I knew a person who went flying rodent gak insane when I made fun of the German ski team. And she was not German, and judging by her size, definetly not a skier.

**Grabzak Dirtyfighter**

Some people apparently get a kick out of being offended by things that aren't their concern. Must make them feel important

**Karon**

Fafnir wrote:
Necanor wrote:I'm german, and I'm not offended so why should someone else be?

I'm just saying, I knew a person who went flying rodent gak insane when I made fun of the German ski team. And she was not German, and judging by her size, definetly not a skier.

Honestly, why would they ever know? Are you just going to go up to them and say "Hey, its a piece of the berlin wall, YOU MAD?"

Just never tell them, and you won't ever have a problem, and if someone does have a problem, see my earlier post.

**Major Malfunction**

I think it would be particularly fitting that a sign of oppression was used for art and creativity.

**Leromides**

Personally I would not be offended, but would not be surprised if there is someone out there that would be. People get upset about the strangest things. Having said that the chances of you actually meeting someone that's going to get significantly annoyed with you for this must be small enough to be ignored. It is, more likely, to be a conversation piece. The problem is that the conversation may well center around why someone would want to do something so weird in the first place. If that's an effect you want to achieve then I say go for it. It might put them off their game!