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Mistress of minis wrote:Ok, people want to assume that because its not mentioned- they must not do it- because thats what they interpret or want to believe from the fluff.

Strawman arguments are bad and bad for you.

The dont talk about IG frequenting brothels either

Actually, it is mentioned a few times in BL books.

Darkvoidof40k wrote:Can we stop argueing about the validity, correct use of the words in and all the other stuff of each others arguments, and just get back OT?

Off-topic post is off-topic.



If it were impossible to present evidence of some sort, this forum would basically amount to the following:

Poster 1: Blarg?
Poster 2: Narg blarg.
Poster 1: Bur, blarg-blarg!
Poster 2: NARG! Darg blarg, bur narg!
Poster 1: Blarg, yur sharg-harg!
Poster 2: YUR SHARG-HARG, FARGAR!
Poster 1: YARG MARGAR FARGAR!
Mod: Clarged.

Mistress of minis wrote:Maternity Armor doesnt look cool.

who says? i mean with the boob cups an all, who would even notice the baby bump? maybe her enemies would take pity and not hit her for a split second and she could cleave them in two with one of them amazing chainswordy thingies the repentia carry. like i said before, gotta get new recruits somehow, and one would only assume the baby's destiny would be pretty much sealed being born into the order.

Pardon the somewhat stereotypical response, but in all seriousness and with no intent to insult, that last comment just screamed "sexual fantasy of a lonely single male"...

Mistress of minis wrote:Maternity Armor doesnt look cool.

I'd stick that in my sig but it's full up

themrsleepy wrote:

Mistress of minis wrote:Maternity Armor doesnt look cool.

who says? i mean with the boob cups an all, who would even notice the baby bump? maybe her enemies would take pity and not hit her for a split second and she could cleave them in two with one of them amazing chainswordy thingies the repentia carry. like i said before, gotta get new recruits somehow, and one would only assume the baby's destiny would be pretty much sealed being born into the order.

you assume the Baby would be a girl.

is it some sort of Amazon thing you have in mind?

off topic, mistress seems youre having a rough day in the forums, sad to see that, i noticed a few other threads today. anyway, yea it may be all based in my odd fantasies, but this is a universe of imaginings and unknowables. it's why we all play, to enjoy our own versions of the universe as we choose to paint it. no im not lonely, happily married and my wife misses my sisters army specially the repentia lol

on topic
sisters are pretty much stereotypical amazony women right? super combaty women in charge of stuff, women make all the decisions, besides a random male inquisitor every now and then, female goddess (celestine) leads them, so why wouldnt they want their own stock to reproduce more warriors devoted to their cause. best way to get converts is kill, get killed or make babies. sadistic but probably true... eh who knows.

themrsleepy wrote:sisters are pretty much stereotypical amazony women right?

Define "stereotypical amazony women" then.

The Sisters are a religious order that worships the Emperor-- there's more than just the Sisters of Battle, as well, though that's what most people refer to. They are recruited from the Schola Progenium, a school for orphans of the Imperium's military forces.

I seem to recall (but can't remember where) that SoB recruits came from orphans, or parents who could no longer care for them, and where taken in by the Ecclesiarchy (sp?). They are then trained from birth to become full battle Sisters.

Given that sister Repentia are formed for sins which aren't mentioned, and the whole nun aesthetic SoB have, I would guess that intercourse is not condoned by the sisterhood.
Should a sister become pregnant, the real question is: do the sisterhood let her have the baby, and raise it as a SoB, or carry out an abortion, before suitable chastisement.

CadianXV: That's the Schola Progenium, which is funded at least in part by the Ecclesiarchy. They also train Commissars and Stormtroopers.

Right- knew it had a fancy name!
And I spelt Ecclesiarchy correctly! Woop!

and i bow to those who know more than i. SOB threads make me miss that army...... maybe if i win semi s next week i ll get a 2500 sob army... sounds good to mees then i ll be able to debate more on the topic of babies possibly

... what do you mean, miss the army? It's still in, they still sell it, it still has a legal codex, etc (though the codex itself is out of print, it is legal)

Melissia wrote:... what do you mean, miss the army? It's still in, they still sell it, it still has a legal codex, etc (though the codex itself is out of print, it is legal)

It's also a little unbalanced (And not in the good way. More along the Necron way) for the Sisters player.

You can still collect and paint the army and wait for the new 'dex though, which I think I recall hearing will be released as a PDF some time in the future. Don't quote me on that, as I can't remember where I heard that/if I heard it for sure, but I do seem to have some sort of memory there of hearing that.

Ok so we know that Most SOB don't have children, and a large contributor to this is the fact they just don't have time. However aside from that we don't know why they don't. This means there could be lots of situations when they would and lots when they wouldn't, it's up to whoever writes the fluff.

Melissia you said that SOB try to be pure and spiritual but I haven't read anywhere (please correct me if you have read something I haven't) that having children is wrong impure. Keep in mind this is 38,000 years in the future and we are talking about a religious organisation that believe it's there duty to burn people whether they have actualy done anything wrong or not. Some things from our cultures can be carried into the 40k universe, but I doubt religious morals are one of them. For all we know some SOB could belive it is there duty to continue humanity.

4M2A wrote:Melissia you said that SOB try to be pure and spiritual but I haven't read anywhere (please correct me if you have read something I haven't) that having children is wrong impure

Giving in to physical pleasures is impure. Sex is one of htem.

Sex is not a pleasure it is an unpleasant sacred duty to breed new warriors for Teh Emporer.

(Also it is not necessary to have sex to have children.)

Kilkrazy wrote:Sex is not a pleasure it is an unpleasant sacred duty to breed new warriors for Teh Emporer.

(Also it is not necessary to have sex to have children.)

They could always adout a child and besides it's a easy sorce of recrits .

Kilkrazy wrote:Sex is not a pleasure it is an unpleasant sacred duty to breed new warriors for Teh Emporer.

That's because you're not good in bed

Enjoying the sight of roasting human seems pretty impure to me but they encourage it. Plus in a culture that views humanity as superior to pretty much everything making more could be a good thing.

Currently sex is seen as giving in to physical pleasure but a lot can change in 38000 years.

4M2A wrote:Enjoying the sight of roasting human seems pretty impure to me but they encourage it.

Source?

4M2A wrote:Currently sex is seen as giving in to physical pleasure but a lot can change in 38000 years.

One of the Chaos Gods is the god of hedonism and pleasure, and quite commonly corrupts nobles through their bored and debauched sexual hedonism.

Wha.. Wait you want me to find the source for thinking SOB like to burn people
How about:
Inferno pistols
Hand flamers
Immolators

If you mean why do I think it's impure, well enjoying watching someone burning is more impure than having sex.

Also Slaanesh is about extreme pleasure and excess not just sex. All the chaos gods are human emotion's taken to an extreme. If having sex helps slaanesh then just feeling anything helps at least one of the chaos gods. But it's more than that, you have to become obseesed with that emotion not just feel it.

Melissia wrote:

4M2A wrote:Enjoying the sight of roasting human seems pretty impure to me but they encourage it.

Source?

I believe the phrase is "Burn the Witch," although it's been a while since I had a gander at the SoB codex, so I may be mistaken.

4M2A wrote:Wha.. Wait you want me to find the source for thinking SOB like to burn people

No, I want a source that shows that they encourage people to take pleasure in burning heretics. The purpose of burning heretics is to cleanse their souls of sin, not to get some strange pyrophiliac thrill out of it.

Melissia wrote:

4M2A wrote:Wha.. Wait you want me to find the source for thinking SOB like to burn people

No, I want a source that shows that they encourage people to take pleasure in burning heretics. The purpose of burning heretics is to cleanse their souls of sin, not to get some strange pyrophiliac thrill out of it.

More likely to be Pyromania, but that's nitpicking. Also, on the point of Slaanesh, that particular god is representative of excess of pleasure, rather than pleasure itself. It is a mirror image of how far human lusts can go.

4M2A wrote:Wha.. Wait you want me to find the source for thinking SOB like to burn people
How about:
Inferno pistols
Hand flamers
Immolators

The fact that they use them doesn't mean that they enjoy it. I used a semi-automatic assault rifle in the army... Doesn't mean I like shooting people.

I would suspect the tendency towards flame and heat based weapons is more an issue of perceived cleansing through scouring with fire than of personal preference.

I am not saying that they do it for a buzz but even the idea of feeling happy as you watch someone burn is social unnaceptable now, but is ok for them. They will burn heretics even if they have surrendered so they aren't doing it because it's the best action, they have no issues with putting someone through an unnessarily painful death. This is me trying to point out they don't follow our morals.

Humanity had been around for thousands of years before the birth of slaanesh, now I think sex would be neccessary for us to have lasted that long, and it's pretty common so I don't think that it contributes to slaanesh. It's the mindset of being obsessed with feeling every experience that follows slaanesh. Many slaanesh cults may start of just trying new experiences but they aren't really helping slaanesh until they let every urge control them.

And none of that makes any difference in any way. Humanity has sex, Sisters, a small subsection of humanity, rarely have sex because of their religious beliefs and duties. I dunno why this is so hard for people to comprehend. Why WOULD they? They live a life of fasting and prayer, confession and penitence, etc.

Friggin' obsessed with sex...

Actually I only got into this thread when you were asking every for sources when you don't actually have one for your own ideas. I personally belive we can't comment on it as there is too little information.

We know that most don't have kids, but we don't know why. Is there a source that says they think sex is wrong? Not that giving into pleasure but sex specifically. This should resolve the OP question.

Melissia wrote:And none of that makes any difference in any way. Humanity has sex, Sisters, a small subsection of humanity, rarely have sex because of their religious beliefs and duties. I dunno why this is so hard for people to comprehend.

Friggin' obsessed with sex...

I'd estimate 80% of wargamers are male, so probably.

And I'm pretty sure a few of us said killing people tends to get in the way of you love life.