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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/13 20:32:55
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
Nucia
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-facepalm- dammit
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So, I was in this place people call the mall a while back. And I had the urge to expel some bad spirits. As I went into the bathroom, I chose the urinal closes to the corner so I could have some privacy. So I whip out Lord Pevincy and let him loose the bad spirits. Well, I was looking at the wall as the Lord was expelling the spirits and I seemed to have gotten distracted. Turns out, I missed a little.
SO I'm sitting at my computer right, and I have a Coke, Bottled mind you. But it got warm, so I got a Coffie cup and I filled it with the coke and some Ice and I sipped as I did my internet stuff. So like and hour passed and I hadn't sipped any of it. and when I go to sip it, I notice that something solid is in it. So I'm like, "No, why would there be something solid in my coke?" SO I pull these solid THINGS off my tongue and guess what they are? F ING ANTS! I was like WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And so I ran into the Kitchen coughing and what not and I threw those little bastards down the drain with a flood of hate and cold water.......those bastards are lucky I don't have my Nucians yet!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 01:21:22
Subject: Re:Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Flashy Flashgitz
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Kilkrazy wrote:Shadowbrand wrote:What if that Assassin and that Farseer have a baby?
Would it be sterile?
What would be the most interesting plot development?
"Lofn"
On topic, it's really really unlikely for both, the logic that most people are using, that they "look similar enough" isn't really good enough, as far as biology goes. I think that Eldar have a significantly different reproductive system than ours. As for Tau, people are saying that they're mammals, but they're not even from Earth, so you can't classify them under our terms, especially given the tiny bits of fluff that exist for them.
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whalemusic360 wrote:
DBZ referance. Gotta be a special kinda nerd to get that one.
Whew, I can finally unclench my anus. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 02:04:33
Subject: Re:Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Question: Can Xenos and Humans cross breed?
Answer:
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Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb, but refuse. They cling to the realm, or love, or the gods…illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is, but they’ll never know this. Not until it’s too late.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 08:43:36
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Massive Knarloc Rider
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Heres an odd thought, would said intercours ebetween two species count as bestiality?
eugh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 11:22:57
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Battleship Captain
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ghosty wrote:Heres an odd thought, would said intercours ebetween two species count as bestiality?
eugh.
Only if it's with a kroot hound.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 12:00:13
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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FWIW, way back in the day (WD90 something?) the original Index Astartes article for the Ultramarines stated that their Chief Librarian was half-Eldar/half-Human...
Obviously, 40k fluff has moved on a bit since then, but what are you gonna do?
On an unrelated note, and anyone looked closely at Tigurius' ears to see if they're a bit, uh, pointy-er than usual?
Valete,
JohnS
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Valete,
JohnS
"You don't believe data - you test data. If I could put my finger on the moment we genuinely <expletive deleted> ourselves, it was the moment we decided that data was something you could use words like believe or disbelieve around"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 12:04:57
Subject: Re:Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Shadowbrand wrote:What if that Assassin and that Farseer have a baby?
Would it be sterile?
Someone's been rooting around on 1d4chan.
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"Praise Be To The Omissiah!"
"Three things make the Empire great: Faith, Steel and Gunpowder!"
Azarath Metrion Zinthos
Expect my posts to have a bazillion edits. I miss out letters, words, sometimes even entire sentences in my points and posts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 15:23:06
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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cygnnus wrote:FWIW, way back in the day (WD90 something?) the original Index Astartes article for the Ultramarines stated that their Chief Librarian was half-Eldar/half-Human...
Obviously, 40k fluff has moved on a bit since then, but what are you gonna do?
On an unrelated note, and anyone looked closely at Tigurius' ears to see if they're a bit, uh, pointy-er than usual?
Valete,
JohnS
of course back then the Ultramarines were a second founding chapter based on a desert world that got most of their equipment by scavanging equipment from traitor legionarres.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 15:56:50
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Massive Knarloc Rider
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@ GES ahh but a kroot hound is only a kroot thats shaper thought "Huh, those packs of dogs have a good pack mentality. I'll see if that works"
So,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 16:08:32
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Fireknife Shas'el
All over the U.S.
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ghosty wrote:@ GES ahh but a kroot hound is only a kroot thats shaper thought "Huh, those packs of dogs have a good pack mentality. I'll see if that works"
So, 
Then by all means, go have your fun with a kroot. Just remember that Kroot are basically flightless birds like chickens, so that would make you a chicken ****er.
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Officially elevated by St. God of Yams to the rank of Scholar of the Church of the Children of the Eternal Turtle Pie at 11:42:36 PM 05/01/09
If they are too stupid to live, why make them?
In the immortal words of Socrates, I drank what??!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 16:22:29
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Master Sergeant
North Carolina
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 16:33:12
Subject: Re:Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Veteran ORC
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Why had no one posted this before?
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I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 19:18:19
Subject: Re:Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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No. I'd have to say that if this was attempted no offspring would be produced. The fluff from Xenology and the codexes demonstrates that the Eldar and Tau are very dissimilar species from humans. The former is vastly more complex while the other is closer to a deer.
But could the act be attempted? Probably, though it might not be pleasant. Besides who would want to try that with the Emperor watching? (He is ALWAYS watching.)
Anyway, logical analysis won't stop GW writers from doing what they think is cool although they seem to have left this idea in the past.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 19:36:34
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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NO! And to even suggest it is heresy!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 19:46:31
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Nigel Stillman
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cygnnus wrote:FWIW, way back in the day (WD90 something?) the original Index Astartes article for the Ultramarines stated that their Chief Librarian was half-Eldar/half-Human...
Obviously, 40k fluff has moved on a bit since then, but what are you gonna do?
On an unrelated note, and anyone looked closely at Tigurius' ears to see if they're a bit, uh, pointy-er than usual?
Valete,
JohnS
It was their Chief Astropath, Illiyan Nastase whose mother was human and the father was an Eldar mercenary.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 21:03:17
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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ghosty wrote:Heres an odd thought, would said intercours ebetween two species count as bestiality?
eugh.
It would if you are a human, but not if you are certain kinds of aliens.
The reason is that bestiality is having sex with a beast. Humans regard all aliens as beasts. All aliens don't regard humans as beasts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 21:26:56
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Massive Knarloc Rider
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Very well. I will.
Ooh that feels nice mr Anghor Prok, ooh, your such a naughty bird.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 21:31:23
Subject: Re:Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Battleship Captain
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You can take the take the kroot.
I have my eyes set on Schlicktau.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 21:50:59
Subject: Re:Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
Lawrenceville, New Jersey, USA
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I wanna mate a loxatl with something!
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The black rage is within us all. Lies offer no shield against the inevitable. You speak of donning the black of duty for the red of brotherhood; but it is the black of rage you shall wear when the darkness comes for you. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 22:38:11
Subject: Re:Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Resourceful Gutterscum
Kittitas, WA, USA, North America, Terra, Sol system, Milky Way Glaxy, Known Universe
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Commissar NIkev wrote:drukawski wrote:Tau have their sexual organs on their knees, if you wanted to mate with one you'd end up getting kneed in your crotch the whole time. Good luck getting THAT preggers.
Are you......are you serious?
The OP asked if its possible if a fictitious species that only exists in a few books, some artwork, and as little toy soldiers could possibly procreate with some, again fictitious, far flung future version of ourselves. It's fiction! Yes, No, Maybe, it doesn't matter. The answer is what you want it to be. No one here, or anywhere else for that matter, is going to be able to prove you wrong ever because it's not real to begin with.
Think about it this way, no one has ever seen a Tau that DIDN'T have sexual organs on their knees. Must mean it's true, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 22:56:07
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Vladsimpaler wrote:cygnnus wrote:FWIW, way back in the day (WD90 something?) the original Index Astartes article for the Ultramarines stated that their Chief Librarian was half-Eldar/half-Human...
Obviously, 40k fluff has moved on a bit since then, but what are you gonna do?
On an unrelated note, and anyone looked closely at Tigurius' ears to see if they're a bit, uh, pointy-er than usual?
Valete,
JohnS
It was their Chief Astropath, Illiyan Nastase whose mother was human and the father was an Eldar mercenary.
Ah... It was Chief Astropath... Guess my brain cells ain't quite what they used to be...
And, yes, the Ultras' fluff was very different back then.
Valete,
JohnS
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Valete,
JohnS
"You don't believe data - you test data. If I could put my finger on the moment we genuinely <expletive deleted> ourselves, it was the moment we decided that data was something you could use words like believe or disbelieve around"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 23:09:42
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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This is just too funny XD
You guys are really talking about sex of interspecies HAHAHAHAHAHA
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From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 23:47:23
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Nigel Stillman
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cygnnus wrote:Vladsimpaler wrote:cygnnus wrote:FWIW, way back in the day (WD90 something?) the original Index Astartes article for the Ultramarines stated that their Chief Librarian was half-Eldar/half-Human...
Obviously, 40k fluff has moved on a bit since then, but what are you gonna do?
On an unrelated note, and anyone looked closely at Tigurius' ears to see if they're a bit, uh, pointy-er than usual?
Valete,
JohnS
It was their Chief Astropath, Illiyan Nastase whose mother was human and the father was an Eldar mercenary.
Ah... It was Chief Astropath... Guess my brain cells ain't quite what they used to be...
And, yes, the Ultras' fluff was very different back then.
Valete,
JohnS
It's all good. And yeah, different is definitely what they were! I forget where it came from but I remember reading somewhere that the original Ultramarines fell to Chaos so the 'current' Ultras were just the second iteration of the original chapter. Not sure if that's true.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/14 23:57:47
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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As a biologist i would like to point a few things out.
Xenos by definition are alien to us. In order to cross breed you need to be fairly similar to your mate. and even then the offspring are often sterile or of compromised health. Look at ligers or wolfin. neither is in the best of shape. Mules are steril. Most crossbreeds suffer from impaiment of some kind.
Most species have some form of natural anti crossbreeding built into their DNA. They may mate at a different time or place, their sexual organs may be shaped so as to prohibit sex with other species which is common in insects, they may have pre zygotic or post zygotic mechansims that interfere with reproduction.
In short, when you consider the potential for one of the dozen or so alien races represented in the 40k universe being able to crossbreed, the chances of this being a likelyhood are almost nill.
Answer> NO
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/15 00:08:52
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Fireknife Shas'el
All over the U.S.
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@ Sennacherib- True, ..currently...and irl, but this is the future where they have the technology. 
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Officially elevated by St. God of Yams to the rank of Scholar of the Church of the Children of the Eternal Turtle Pie at 11:42:36 PM 05/01/09
If they are too stupid to live, why make them?
In the immortal words of Socrates, I drank what??!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/15 00:21:57
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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cygnnus wrote:
Ah... It was Chief Astropath... Guess my brain cells ain't quite what they used to be...
Chief Librarian Astropath to be completely precise. He also served with the Dark Angels before the Ultra-Marines (who don't even like abhumans never mind half xenos abominations) and as far as I can tell didn't serve with or become a Space Marine until he was over fifty years old. The entire article is pretty much nonsense although there are a few sections which haven't been completely invalidated by current background.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/15 05:59:20
Subject: Re:Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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yes, it was early fluff that has been completely retconned.
to take the part about the half eldar as official you would also have to take the rest of that terrable article as official. it makes the current smurfs look appealing(although it is more grimdark)
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/15 07:13:07
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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All fluff represents a morass of truth, fiction, propaganda, legends and best guesses. As such it's impossible for GW to ever truly retcon something out of the background.
Look at Squats, supposedly wiped out by the Tyranids decades ago, but lots of people are building Squat armies because they are fun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/15 07:50:14
Subject: Re:Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Satyxis Raider
In your head, screwing with your thoughts...
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Morgrim wrote:I think that human/eldar hybrid got retconned out of existence as soon as GW started to treat 40k as more than WFB in space. Besides, if females are genetically incompatible with geneseed implantation then half human hybrids definitely would be.
I don't think human and t'au could fertilize each other, never mind producing young. Too much variation in the species; I recall reading somewhere that branches of the ruminants can't interbreed (no cowxgoats for example) and phylogenetically they aren't too far apart. 'They both might be mammals' doesn't really hold up. If someone can show me a half dog half cat I'll retract that (and that's being generous  )
Now, 'can they have sex together' is a completely different story. Not sure about the anatomy of male t'au, so male t'au to human might not be plausible in the conventional sense, but I think any other permutation of human, t'au and eldar is possible. Whether they'd actually do it is something else entirely.
Ahem...
In other news, I have serious doubts about a Tau/Human hybrid being possible, but I think Human/Eldar is feasible enough. In case nobody noticed, they look pretty much exactly like humans. Tau, on the other hand, look like goat/fish hybrids. Think about that for a moment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/15 17:49:30
Subject: Would Xenos And Humans Be Able to Cross Bred?
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
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I dont really think that I WANT to see what a human/xenos cross breed would look like. =P eww
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