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Some great replies in here.
Keep it up

Now who is mephistonsabummers alt?!

Bit far from notts mate. If you and your mates are ever at warhammer world then sure.

lol we will be there soon m8
yeah mate so this list seems easy? i can assure our store has a lot of very good competitive players,
termie army of doom mega im sure my mates plastastic sternguard or my mates leman russ executioner heavy list wont beat that. since not a lot of people are thinking reality or taking into account your playing humans and not just going "mephistons got a 2+ armour save hmmmm plasma, sorted"
it aint that easy and if it is where you play then its not us who are cack players i recomend not playing someone half your age

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I play BA as well, and i use a Stormraven in my 1500 army with a TL Multi-melta and TL Assault cannon, best thing about this thing is i can flat out 24" and still Multi-melta the tanky

also the dudes inside are equipped with at least one melta bomb, i usually run vanguard vets inside, and a Furioso dread on the back with Dual Blood talons. I also use 2 razorbacks with TL assault cannons(assault troops inside with melta bomb/PF sarge) and dual mulit melta landspeeders, i imagine that this would help your chances.

This list has only 1 overpowered unit.you should remember that mephiston is afraid of lascannons and plasma guns 10 shots from plasma gun will kill him for sure.You should deal with him until it is too late try to kill him in 2 turns and never use your hq to deal with him. Only shooting can kill him fast.Use deffensive army against him.

DeathReaper wrote:I play BA as well, and i use a Stormraven in my 1500 army with a TL Multi-melta and TL Assault cannon, best thing about this thing is i can flat out 24" and still Multi-melta the tanky

Just went to get my rule book and codex to prove you wrong, and was amazed that by RAW you are correct, the Machine spirit rules say you may fire one more gun than normally allowed, and the fast vehicle rules only say you may not fire when moving flat out. Excellent spot.

DeathReaper wrote:also the dudes inside are equipped with at least one melta bomb, i usually run vanguard vets inside, and a Furioso dread on the back with Dual Blood talons. I also use 2 razorbacks with TL assault cannons(assault troops inside with melta bomb/PF sarge) and dual mulit melta landspeeders, i imagine that this would help your chances.

Melta bombs not so reliable against moving tanks, dread will be ineffective with blood talons, hardly any infantry, troops are in reserve etc, razorbacks will die to las preds or even baals..... however you would stand a good chance as you have multiple threats, you would need first turn though, still looks a good list, what HQ do you take?


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Constantine wrote:This list has only 1 overpowered unit.you should remember that mephiston is afraid of lascannons and plasma guns 10 shots from plasma gun will kill him for sure.You should deal with him until it is too late try to kill him in 2 turns and never use your hq to deal with him. Only shooting can kill him fast.Use deffensive army against him.

10 plasma shots at bs 4
6.6666 hits
4.4444 wounds
seems he is likely to have 1 wound left....if not in cover, and no he is angry fella.

Zing Buddy. That's right I'm sure I heard about Haggis McSporran from Aberdeen winning the GT last year. Lol. Not.

Seriously though, Yes it's a tough army. Just dont play the game it wants you to. Threaten with your own units, force the Bloodsucking Rtard to hide or expose himself. Even a relatively poor army, well played can beat a well played well chosen army. Every army has the tools for the Job, dont be scared to take them. If this list is indicative of the meta game in your club/store then I'd sure as hell squeeze in every last High strength, Low AP gun that I could lay my grubby lil paws on.

And technically my opponents are 2/3 my age on average. Although I can forgive you the difference since it is usually only spasticated five year old that love to use Meffistun.

mephistonsabummer wrote:
Zing Buddy. That's right I'm sure I heard about Haggis McSporran from Aberdeen winning the GT last year. Lol. Not.

Seriously though, Yes it's a tough army. Just dont play the game it wants you to. Threaten with your own units, force the Bloodsucking Rtard to hide or expose himself. Even a relatively poor army, well played can beat a well played well chosen army. Every army has the tools for the Job, dont be scared to take them.

You actually make some half decent points here, it is a shame your use of insults and silly jokes detracts from a pretty insightful point.

mephistonsabummer wrote: And technically my opponents are 2/3 my age on average. Although I can forgive you the difference since it is usually only spasticated five year old that love to use Meffistun.

Im sure that posting on a forum, where nobody knows you, and you do not have to deal with anyone face to face makes you feel pretty brave and clever, but IMO you are far from either.

I is both brave and clever. I have also had enough of this charade.

You need to respect other peoples opinions fella.





Mephistonsabummer's account has now been closed due to tactical genius.


Hugs n kisses.

Kev.

Kev..........really.........as in the one we know?


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Ahhhhh....1-0 to you Mr Low

Fateweaver 333

Skarbrand 300

4 flamers 140

4 flamers 140

4 flamers 140

5 plaguebearers 75

5 plaguebearers 75

6 screamers 96

6 screamers 96

6 screamers 96

= 1491

Waves go: Fateweaver, Skarbrand, 3 screamers in first wave. Rest in reserve.

lol kev you absolute tool!!!1

Jabbdo wrote:Fateweaver 333

Skarbrand 300

4 flamers 140

4 flamers 140

4 flamers 140

5 plaguebearers 75

5 plaguebearers 75

6 screamers 96

6 screamers 96

6 screamers 96

= 1491

Waves go: Fateweaver, Skarbrand, 3 screamers in first wave. Rest in reserve.

Wow great list, so I assume you would have no problem playing my mass infantry guard list with this.........or an ork horde?

Like I said in store he wasn't a troll he was a genius.

Not one we need right now but one we deserve.

A watchful mocker... a silent irritator...

A dork Knight.


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Radi87 wrote:

Jabbdo wrote:Fateweaver 333

Skarbrand 300

4 flamers 140

4 flamers 140

4 flamers 140

5 plaguebearers 75

5 plaguebearers 75

6 screamers 96

6 screamers 96

6 screamers 96

= 1491

Waves go: Fateweaver, Skarbrand, 3 screamers in first wave. Rest in reserve.

Wow great list, so I assume you would have no problem playing my mass infantry guard list with this.........or an ork horde?

I mean all you need is a Bloodthirster, a great unclean one, 5 feinds, 3 flamers, 4 juggers, 6 plaguebearers, 8 horrors, a daemon prince and a soul grinder.

All you need is a bloodthirster my pedigree chum....

Radi87 wrote:

Jabbdo wrote:Fateweaver 333

Skarbrand 300

4 flamers 140

4 flamers 140

4 flamers 140

5 plaguebearers 75

5 plaguebearers 75

6 screamers 96

6 screamers 96

6 screamers 96

= 1491

Waves go: Fateweaver, Skarbrand, 3 screamers in first wave. Rest in reserve.

Wow great list, so I assume you would have no problem playing my mass infantry guard list with this.........or an ork horde?

Would have trouble against a horde, obviously, but not impossible to win against one, no. This would eat predspam for breakfast though.

My point is, is this your standard list that you use against all comers?

Radi87 wrote:All you need is a bloodthirster my pedigree chum....

A Bloodthirster will hardly inflict 5 wounds on Mephiston.
Mephiston can eventually instantly kill him when one of his attacks goes through.

A bloodthirster is an eternal warrior, and has a 2+ save against all of mephistons attacks....

Radi87 wrote:My point is, is this your standard list that you use against all comers?

I play many different lists from different codexes, I wouldn't take this to a tournament, no, but using it in a friendly game is fun and it performs better than you would expect from looking at the list. And as I said this list would destroy predspam, which was the OP question when he gave us a list and said make a 1500pt list to beat it.

Radi87 wrote:A bloodthirster is an eternal warrior, and has a 2+ save against all of mephistons attacks....

MUHUHAHAHA, I lol'd hard . of Psy weapons (you know, the ones you need to pass a Psy test to activate). But as BFs got Eternal Warrior there is no point for Mephiston to even use his Insta-Gib effect. Psy weapons count as PWs with the mentioned Insta -Gib ability .You really should re-read the Blessing of the Blood God rules, they grand you a 2+ save against damage dealing psy-powers, including the Instant-Kill ability, your 2+ save does not work against the normal attacks. You'll have to use your normal 4++ save instead (so good night sweet prince if Mephi is angry)...

Ragnar Blackmane wrote:

Radi87 wrote:A bloodthirster is an eternal warrior, and has a 2+ save against all of mephistons attacks....

MUHUHAHAHA, I lol'd hard . of Psy weapons (you know, the ones you need to pass a Psy test to activate). But as BFs got Eternal Warrior there is no point for Mephiston to even use his Insta-Gib effect. Psy weapons count as PWs with the mentioned Insta -Gib ability .You really should re-read the Blessing of the Blood God rules, they grand you a 2+ save against damage dealing psy-powers, including the Instant-Kill ability, your 2+ save does not work against the normal attacks. You'll have to use your normal 4++ save instead (so good night sweet prince if Mephi is angry)...

Reread your codex. pg 74 blessing of the blood god "...The daemon has aa 2+ invulnerable save against wounds caused by psychic powers or force weapons."

Seriously, if your gonna post stuff that is wrong then just dont post at all.

Cool down.
Why should Mephiston come across a Bloodthirster.
I'd shoot him to death at first sight.

Radi87 wrote:

DeathReaper wrote:I play BA as well, and i use a Stormraven in my 1500 army with a TL Multi-melta and TL Assault cannon, best thing about this thing is i can flat out 24" and still Multi-melta the tanky

Just went to get my rule book and codex to prove you wrong, and was amazed that by RAW you are correct, the Machine spirit rules say you may fire one more gun than normally allowed, and the fast vehicle rules only say you may not fire when moving flat out. Excellent spot.

DeathReaper wrote:also the dudes inside are equipped with at least one melta bomb, i usually run vanguard vets inside, and a Furioso dread on the back with Dual Blood talons. I also use 2 razorbacks with TL assault cannons(assault troops inside with melta bomb/PF sarge) and dual mulit melta landspeeders, i imagine that this would help your chances.

Melta bombs not so reliable against moving tanks, dread will be ineffective with blood talons, hardly any infantry, troops are in reserve etc, razorbacks will die to las preds or even baals..... however you would stand a good chance as you have multiple threats, you would need first turn though, still looks a good list, what HQ do you take?

I usually take a Librarian with honor guard. and yea meltabombs aren't great against tanks on the move, just use them against stationary tanks.

Ah great, but personally id go for powerfist over melta bombs, more attacks. Plus they have the added bonus of hurting M/Cs and instant killing most ICs

Radi87 wrote:Ah great, but personally id go for powerfist over melta bombs, more attacks. Plus they have the added bonus of hurting M/Cs and instant killing most ICs

That is what the Librarians Force weapon is for, killing MC's and IC's, the melta bombs are there as a just in case, or if i have 5 points left. the 4 meltaguns usually take care of most vehicles.

Tweak it to suit your playstyle though.

Melta bombs are just an add-on when you have 5 or 10 pts left.