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Except the errata says to ignore the page references. Nice try though....

The rtulebook, RAW, is overridden by the specific rule in the TK book stating they get D3. If you try to give them D6 you have broken the TK rule.

I don't know why it's so difficult to notice the "instead" word in the light chariots rule.

The BRB rule is only referencing situations where both the unit type (Chariot) AND the unit's special rules BOTH grant impact hits, you select the higher amount.

But TK chariots are not getting both.
The special rule is very specific-- you get d3 INSTEAD of d6 impact hits.

This special rule specifically cancels out the d6 impact hits from being a chariot and replaces it with d3.

You're not getting both and having the option of choosing one or the other. You are replacing one with the other.


I play TK, this is clear as day to me.

Exact wording on p71. If a creature is granted two sets of impact hits, normally because its troop type and special rules both bestow Impact hits, use the highest set, rather than a total.

The back of the book clearly lists chariots as a Troop Type Ch. (p483) Chariots in the BRB are clearly granted d6 hits. (p86)

The Special Rules on page 25 of the Tomb Kings book lists D3 impact hits.

I just don't see how it gets any more clear than that.

Ragnar4 wrote:Exact wording on p71. If a creature is granted two sets of impact hits, normally because its troop type and special rules both bestow Impact hits, use the highest set, rather than a total.

The back of the book clearly lists chariots as a Troop Type Ch. (p483) Chariots in the BRB are clearly granted d6 hits. (p86)

The Special Rules on page 25 of the Tomb Kings book lists D3 impact hits.

I just don't see how it gets any more clear than that.

No Page 25 lists D3 impact hitsINSTEAD of D6....

Stop leaving vital key words out. The way you list it, its clear for your argument. however your leaving out a very important piece.

The rulebook says all chariots gain D6 impact hits. Your like ok cool.

You then decide to play tomb kings, and look at there chariots.

The tomb king book then ammends the BRB stating that even though they are chariots instead of D6 impact hits, they only get D3

Ragnar - you are breaking the TK rule if your chariots have D6 impact hits.

Additional questions:

Because the TK box-out states that the TK chariots rank up just like infantry and cavalry, that means we need 5-wide to get a rank bonus correct?

Because the 4th bullet point is changed to simply "units of chariots can be joined by characters" per the errata-- does this mean I can join a Prince/King on foot with the chariot unit?

In_Theory wrote:Additional questions:

Because the TK box-out states that the TK chariots rank up just like infantry and cavalry, that means we need 5-wide to get a rank bonus correct?

Because the 4th bullet point is changed to simply "units of chariots can be joined by characters" per the errata-- does this mean I can join a Prince/King on foot with the chariot unit?

No only chariots can form into a unit, you cannot join characters to the chariot unit.

And yes, you need 5 wide.

Shivan, what's your support for that? TK characters on chariots were always allowed to join chariot units. If the errata changes the wording to "characters", then I'd say anyone (on horse, on foot, etc) can join. Then the unit moves at the slowest speed, and they'd be shifted out to the side, without a lookout sir roll.

i meant character not on chariots, at least that was the case with the last edition. just looked at the pdf and it looks like a on foot character can join the chariot unit now...

They lose the LoS rule tho!

This senseless debate is easily solved folks. It's d3 impact hits, the same as before.

pg. 8 "On rare occassions, a conflict will arise between a rule in this rulebook, and one printed in a Warhamemr Armies book. Where this occurs the rule printed in the Warhammer Armies book always takes precedence."

What the rule on pg. 71 is referring to is odd (and purely theoretical) occurrences like if you had a Chariot dish out impact hits (due to troop type) and a seperate special rule that also inflicted impact hits (like an ogre's bull rush) you'd take the higher of the two.

In this case it doesn't apply because the Light Chariot rule effectively replaces the Chariot rules. Note the phrase that says, "Light Chariots follow the rules for chariots... with the following exceptions:" One of those exceptions is the reduction in impact hits. So this isn't an additional special rule, this special rule replaces the one found in the Chariot section of the main rulebook.

*grumble grumble*

In light of the recent OnG book..

3 goblin chariots 50 points per model
3d6+3 str5 impact hits low leadership, sometimes re-rollable, can flee

3 Tomb King Chariots 40 points per model.
3d3 str4 impact hits, crumbly, cause fear, can't flee.

I'm not here to argue the rule is RIGHT or WRONG, what I'm here to ask, is: In light of recent developments, would you, as a player, be willing to spot any Khemri player d6 impact hits on his chariots?

Dude WTF its been over 6 months!?
Also get over it new TK are coming

No, no D6 impact hits. Take whats in your book.

Also, threadnomancy bad...

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