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2010/07/15 07:36:31
Subject: Re:Flying Land Raiders
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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WOW, this thread has epic fail written all over it. If some people would just use a thimble full of common sense when trying to interpret the "rules" that GW has deficated unto us, then we wouldn't need pointless threads like this one.
1. Of course you cant use DOA while in a land raider, that's dumb. 
2. The FAQ has already been posted a while ago, learn to search. 
3. I'm an ultramarine player, and you guys complain about OUR special treatment, deep striking LRs...really. 
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2010/07/15 09:35:00
Subject: Flying Land Raiders
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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a - have a jump pack assault unit in a land raider?
b - waste the ds land raider rule by transporting a unit that can already ds?
c - debate what seems to be an answered question?
Why hasn't anyone pointed out that Jump-pack troopers cannot ride in any transport(other than the Storm Raven)?
Assault marines don't require jump packs to have DoA.
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a) Because a 65 point upgrade to make your Land Raider scoring seems worth it. Particular if you could have also meant it only scatters d6" when DSing.
b) Because Assault marines without jump packs can take a LR and LR can only be taken as transports not HS and for the reasons mentioned above.
c) Because this is YMDC and people will debate anything without using common sense and then they'll say that RaW the FAQ is just house rules and doesn't stand...
But yes the debate for me was over the minute someone posted the FAQ and havibng mentioned that it is the LR that DSes not the squad should help with that too. For instance in the case of assault marines in a drop pod, which wasn't directly answered by the FaQ.
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2010/07/15 10:19:02
Subject: Flying Land Raiders
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
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Yep. To take a LR you need to buy a unit since it is a dedicated transport. For me that is a 5 man assault squad that gives a 35 pt discount on your LR when you drop the jump packs.
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2010/07/15 12:46:37
Subject: Flying Land Raiders
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Martial Arts Fiday
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Because Assault Troops have DoA as a special rule, and can remove their Jump Packs and buy a transport.
I don't understand why they didn't just put DoA as a rule connected to Jump Packs and leave it off of all the list entries, instead of just some of them.
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2010/07/15 14:33:12
Subject: Flying Land Raiders
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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jp400 wrote:Gwar! wrote:forkbanger wrote:geordie09 wrote:d - play blood angels?
They're blinged out space-nazi-vampires who drop land raiders on people from space and their dreadnaughts come with giant blender hands. They have a chapter master who kicks people in the junk and has a gigantic two-handed chainsaw as his weapon of choice. Why wouldn't you want to play Blood Angels?
Bat-Nipples.
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2010/07/15 14:44:20
Subject: Re:Flying Land Raiders
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Elite Tyranid Warrior
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Bat-nipples are preferable to dull-marines, closeted-marines, and furry-marines.
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2010/07/15 15:02:52
Subject: Re:Flying Land Raiders
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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.seems like we're done here then. FYI it's always worth having a flick through the existing GW FAQS to see if they answer the question.
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