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Blood Angels LOL! would hate to face this.
10 dreadnoughts that could hurt.
HQ
Libriarian 100

Troops
Death Company(20) 405
MeltaBombsx1

Death Company Dread
Dual Blood talons 125

Death Company Dread
Dual Blood talons 125

Death Company Dread
Dual Blood talons 125

Death Company Dread
Dual Blood talons 125

Elites

Furioso Dread Librarian 175

Furioso Dread Librarian 175

Furioso Dread Librarian 175

Heavy

Dread
Multimelta/Missile launcher 110

Dread
Multimelta/Missile launcher 110

Dread
Multimelta/Missile launcher 110

Fast
Landspeeder
Heavy bolter and Multi-Melta 70

Landspeeder
Heavy bolter and Multi-Melta 70

2000

This list combines a couple of rapid attack units in scary vehicles and a strong horde with 5+ invulnerable saves. Lots of powerklaws and lots of bodies to deal with, not very many kill points.

Mad Dok Grotsnik (160)

Mig Mek, KFF, Cybork body, 'eavy armor, attack squig (115)

8 Mega-nobs with cybork bodies (360)
Battlewagon (Dedicated transport) deff rolla, 2 big shootas, armor plates, grot riggers, grabbin' klaw, boarding plank, red paint job (150)

8 Mega-nobs with cybork bodies (360)
Battlewagon (Dedicated transport) deff rolla, 2 big shootas, armor plates, grot riggers, grabbin' klaw, boarding plank, red paint job (150)

30 Boys, 3 big shootas, nob, power klaw, bosspole (235)

30 Boys, 3 big shootas, nob, power klaw, bosspole (235)

30 Boys, 3 big shootas, nob, power klaw, bosspole (235)

I just came up with what looks like a really effective shooty BA list:

Librarian: Blood Lance & Shield of Sanguinius - 100

Sternguard x9: 9 Combi-meltas, Rhino - 345

Tactical Squad: Meltagun, Multi-Melta, Combi-Melta, Rhino - 235
Tactical Squad: Meltagun, Multi-Melta, Combi-Melta, Rhino - 235
Tactical Squad: Plasmagun, Plasma Cannon, Combi-Plasma, Rhino - 245

Baal Predator: Heavy Bolter Sponsons - 145
Baal Predator: Heavy Bolter Sponsons - 145
Baal Predator: Heavy Bolter Sponsons - 145

Predator: Lascannon Sponsons - 135
Predator: Lascannon Sponsons - 135
Predator: Lascannon Sponsons - 135

An AV 13 wall of shooty death. AT-Preds really benefit from the fast rule whilst still being cheap.

1975/2000

Burbsee wrote:

Ailaros wrote:Honestly, I'm seeing a lot of "meh" here. I don't think my army would have all that difficult of a time with anything here.

The armies I'd least like to fight are the ones that have the most spam. For example, a 6 tervigon list would be terrifying as not only would that be 36 T6 wounds to slowly, slowly chew through, but they would pop out an average of over 60 termagaunts PER TURN. Assuming really good rolling, the theoretical maximum 6 tervagons can put out in a 6-turn game is over FIVE HUNDRED TERMAGAUNTS! Oh, and by the way, this costs less than 1,000 points, so good luck dealing with everything else in the tyranid list.

Alternately, I could see some pretty bogus abuse of "send in the next wave" guard conscript SPAM, along with the more mundane green tide totally covered with KFFs.

How do you get 6 tervigons? Besides there is a post above using a list of 5 tervigons anyhow.

One thing I i would like to add is my list has Spore Cloud Rule i get a 5+ cover save units count as having Defensive Grenades and Dangerous terrian test for assaulting and all Termagants get Counter-Attack USR (Tervigons) so mass ork will get owned -1 A vs +1 A + Dangerous Terrain losses, Then Toxic Miasma Wounds.

Also list not rely trying to win its trying to Draw/Kill all your troops and contest/secure all objetives.

Also the 90 Gargoyles with their to hit rolls of 6 = 1 instant wound, then 4+ to wound with re-rolls on <T4 models will hurt deathstar units
most people forget poisoned allows you to re-roll wounds if you S is equal to or greater than target toughtness. Also dont forget the S 5 large templates cluster spines.

this would be soooo fun

Wazdakka-180

12xwarbikers, PK nob- 335
12xWarbikers, PK Nob-335
12x Warbikers, PK Nob-335
12xWarbikers, PK nob-335
12xWArbikers, PK nob-335

5x Tankbustas-2x tankhammer, PK nob-110
trukk-35

200pts exactly....
can you say 180 s5 TWIN_LINKED SHOTS???? i can
wazdakka and the bustas can take out the tanks... and when the bikers hit? not pretty at al.

Just my first thoughts:

CCS
Creed, Kell, Bodyguard, Lascannon - 260

Infantry Platoon - 330 x 3 = 990
PCS
3 Flamers
IS
Commissar, flamer, 2 power weapons
IS
Flamer, power weapon, melta bomb
HWS
3 Lascannons

Vet squad - 175
Harker, 2 Meltas, Demolitions

Manticore - 160

Manticore - 160

Basilisk - 125

Over 85 scoring dudes, guaranteed orders for lascannons at LD 10, plus you can give one of the mobs furious charge. Not to mention that Harker gets a first turn meltabomb hit with Creed giving him scout.

Check out this army. Made it for lulz, and I think I'll try it out on Vassal.

Librarian - 100

Assault Squad x5: Land Raider Crusader - 315
Assault Squad x5: Land Raider Crusader - 315
Assault Squad x5: Land Raider Crusader - 315
Assault Squad x5: Land Raider - 315
Assault Squad x5: Land Raider - 315
Assault Squad x5: Land Raider - 315

That's right, an army consisting entirely of 6 scoring land raiders. Some armies would be downright screwed. I could play a 2k game in an hour. Pure awesomesauce. And Shield of Sanguinius gives them a cover save! Muhahahaha.

eNvY wrote:Check out this army. Made it for lulz, and I think I'll try it out on Vassal.

Librarian - 100

Assault Squad x5: Land Raider Crusader - 315
Assault Squad x5: Land Raider Crusader - 315
Assault Squad x5: Land Raider Crusader - 315
Assault Squad x5: Land Raider - 315
Assault Squad x5: Land Raider - 315
Assault Squad x5: Land Raider - 315

That's right, an army consisting entirely of 6 scoring land raiders. Some armies would be downright screwed. I could play a 2k game in an hour. Pure awesomesauce.

Oh dear god. . .


. . . . im now going to try to make a list to top all of that nasty armor.

The obvious counter is this:

Archon w/Warrior Retinue, 2 Dark Lances, Raider - 185
Drachon w/Warrior Retinue, 2 Dark Lances, Raider - 160

Wyches x5: 2 Blasters, Raider - 125
Wyches x5: 2 Blasters, Raider - 125
Wyches x5: 2 Blasters, Raider - 125

Raider Squad: Dark Lance, Raider - 105
Raider Squad: Dark Lance, Raider - 105
Raider Squad: Dark Lance, Raider - 105
Raider Squad: Dark Lance, Raider - 105
Raider Squad: Dark Lance, Raider - 105
Raider Squad: Dark Lance, Raider - 105

Ravager - 105
Ravager - 105
Ravager - 105

30 Dark Lance shots a turn. And when the Wyches get up close, it gets to 36. All for 1665 pts.

I'd just Take 2 meks, one with shokk attakk gun, 3x15 lootas, 3x3 killa kanz, and 2xDeff dreadz. (the deff dreads fill up compulsary troops choices).
If I had the points, here comes Zagstrukk and 60 stormboyz!!!

Ultimate Ultimate List (Vanilla Marines no points limit?)
2500 points

Legion of the Damned Army

Chaplain
Digital Weapons
Jump Pack
Power Fist
140

Chaplain
Digital Weapons
Jump Pack
Power Fist
140

ELITES

Legion of the Damned (8 man)
Combi-Melta
Power Weapon
Melta Gun
290

Legion of the Damned (8 man)
Combi-Melta
Power Weapon
Melta Gun
290



Legion of the Damned (7 man)
Combi-Melta
Power Weapon
Melta Gun
260


TROOPS
Tactical Squad (10 man)
Sergeant: Combi-Plasma & Melta Bombs
Plasma Gun
Plasma Cannon
Rhino w/ Extra Armour & HK
260


Tactical Squad (10 man)
Sergeant: Combi-Plasma & Melta Bombs
Plasma Gun
Plasma Cannon
Rhino w/ extra armour & HK
260

FAST ATTACK
Assault Squad (10 man)
Sergeant: Lightning Claws
Plasma Pistol x 2
250

Assault Squad (10 man)
Sergeant: Lightning Claws
Plasma Pistol x 2
250

HEAV Y SUPPORT
Vindicator w/ HK
125

Vindicator
115

Vindicator
115

2500

Corennus wrote:Ultimate Ultimate List (Vanilla Marines no points limit?)
2500 points

Legion of the Damned Army

Chaplain
Digital Weapons
Jump Pack
Power Fist
140

Chaplain
Digital Weapons
Jump Pack
Power Fist
140

ELITES

Legion of the Damned (8 man)
Combi-Melta
Power Weapon
Melta Gun
290

Legion of the Damned (8 man)
Combi-Melta
Power Weapon
Melta Gun
290



Legion of the Damned (7 man)
Combi-Melta
Power Weapon
Melta Gun
260


TROOPS
Tactical Squad (10 man)
Sergeant: Combi-Plasma & Melta Bombs
Plasma Gun
Plasma Cannon
Rhino w/ Extra Armour & HK
260


Tactical Squad (10 man)
Sergeant: Combi-Plasma & Melta Bombs
Plasma Gun
Plasma Cannon
Rhino w/ extra armour & HK
260

FAST ATTACK
Assault Squad (10 man)
Sergeant: Lightning Claws
Plasma Pistol x 2
250

Assault Squad (10 man)
Sergeant: Lightning Claws
Plasma Pistol x 2
250

HEAV Y SUPPORT
Vindicator w/ HK
125

Vindicator
115

Vindicator
115

2500

meh.


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eNvY wrote:Check out this army. Made it for lulz, and I think I'll try it out on Vassal.

Librarian - 100

Assault Squad x5: Land Raider Crusader - 315
Assault Squad x5: Land Raider Crusader - 315
Assault Squad x5: Land Raider Crusader - 315
Assault Squad x5: Land Raider - 315
Assault Squad x5: Land Raider - 315
Assault Squad x5: Land Raider - 315

That's right, an army consisting entirely of 6 scoring land raiders. Some armies would be downright screwed. I could play a 2k game in an hour. Pure awesomesauce. And Shield of Sanguinius gives them a cover save! Muhahahaha.

Some armies would be screwed, but many have plenty of melta (which kills land raiders easy as you have no way of stopping them from getting close) or lascannon/equivalent. If you face an army with any reasonable amount of that youre screwed.

not really... i mean even if an army has the answer that still 6 frickin land raiders to deal with... that sounds like a lot of luck 6s. with lascannons, you have a 1/2 or a 2/3 chance to hit. Then you have only 6's to pen. Then you have to get a 5 or a 6 to kill..... and do that 6 times...

you dont nececcarily need to kill the raiders, just stun, shake, immobilize them. They dont come with extra IIRC, so stuns will keep them from doing anything for a turn. Immobilized will stop them from being able to get around, to objectives, and youll hit automatically in CC. And meltaguns will kill them easy, 2-3 meltaguns WILL kill a land raider no problem. Its not an easy list to beat, for example most daemon armies would cry when they see the enemy deploy it, but its by no means impossible. Every codex has the units to kill a land raider, even daemons can kill land raiders, and they have the worst antitank around.