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Atode wrote:

stompydakka wrote:it has 2 attacks, 3 on the charge, but 3 s7 autohits on the back armor of a rhino turn 1 isnt too shabby...

Just pointing this out, if you are using a 70pt model to kill a 35 point model (50 in some codex I believe), you are losing out.

If it were a Vindi though I'd say it is useful.

I totally agree, but I quoted him on the rhino

I'll gladly trade my deff koptas for a more costly unit, but generally not for a rhino.

Well, look at it like this...Rhino is not just a 35-point vehicle. It's also the means to get the player's Marines or Sternguards across the field, where they can tactically outmaneuver an Ork army. Without that transport ability, that tact squad is as good as dead once you get to charge them. That's also 1 scoring unit left without a transport.

So while I agree that stuff like Vindis, Predators, etc are juicer target than a simple Rhino, if a Rhino is your option, it's by no means a bad one to take out.

Iridis wrote:Big Mek + KFF = 85 points
Big Mek + KFF = 85 points
5 Lootas = 75 points
5 Lootas = 75 points
3 killa Kans + 3 Rokkit Launcha = 150 points
3 Killa Kans + 3 grotzooka = 135 points
3 Killa kans + 3 Rokkit Launcha = 150 points
30 Ork Boyz + Nob + Power Klaw + Bosspole = 220 Points
30 Ork Boyz + Nob + Power Klaw + Bosspole = 220 points
30 Ork Boyz + 3 big Shootas + Nob + Power Klaw + Bosspole = 230 points
1 Deffkopta + T/L Rokkit launcha + Buzzsaw = 70 points
= 1500 points

The main opponent that I will be playing with this army is space marines and I know this army will be drop podding and using stone guard if any suggestions can be made to make this army more effective against stone guard they will be appreciated thank you

I actually played a game against SM's with a list nearly identical to this last night.

Big Mek + KFF
Big Mek + KFF
3 killa Kans + 3 Rokkit Launcha
3 Killa Kans + 3 grotzooka
3 Killa kans + 3 Big Shootas
30 Ork Boyz + Nob + Power Klaw + Bosspole
30 Ork Boyz + Nob + Power Klaw + Bosspole
1x Deffkopta + T/L Rokkit launcha + Buzzsaw
1x Deffkopta + T/L Rokkit launcha + Buzzsaw
1x Deffkopta + T/L Rokkit launcha + Buzzsaw

The list was fairly effective sans a few things. The Grotzookas didn't do a thing for me, nor did the big shootas. Go all Rokkits.
You need 2 Big Meks to keep the KFF up. It'll drive your opponent nuts and keep you making saves.
My deff Koptas wrecked his tanks. Plain and simple these are the turning point for my army. They alpha strike tanks and seriously cripple an opponents ability to do much damage first turn, or stop transports from doing their job. This can really set the pace for a game in your favor. Run them as 3 seperate units as well.
My opponent ran a vindicator and it actually was able to shoot for 3 rounds and didn't do anything really. I think he managed to kill 3 boyz with it. The KFF is king.
30 boyz is too many. You need maybe 22 + Nob. They don't need any heavy weapons as they should be running towards the enemy to get into CC. I would advise running 3-4 squads of 22 + Nob with PK / BP
I actually bought a box of lootas immediately after my game. They are 100% necessary in this type of list. They can sit and hold an objective while laying down serious damage to enemy armour. If you can run 2 squads, do it.

My list after being revised post-game last night (ended in a tie for take and hold spearhead on turn 7). I don't have my dex and haven't hammered the points down, but if the points are there, i'd like to add 5 more lootas or another squad of 22 boyz.

Big Mek + KFF
Big Mek + KFF
3 killa Kans + 3 Rokkit Launcha
3 Killa Kans + 3 Rokkit Launcha
3 Killa kans + 3 Rokkit Launcha
22 Ork Boyz + Nob + Power Klaw + Bosspole
22 Ork Boyz + Nob + Power Klaw + Bosspole
22 Ork Boyz + Nob + Power Klaw + Bosspole
5 Lootas
1x Deffkopta + T/L Rokkit launcha + Buzzsaw
1x Deffkopta + T/L Rokkit launcha + Buzzsaw
1x Deffkopta + T/L Rokkit launcha + Buzzsaw


Good luck! May Mork and Gork Toothily grin upon you!

Acefisher1 wrote:
Big Mek + KFF
Big Mek + KFF
3 killa Kans + 3 Rokkit Launcha
3 Killa Kans + 3 Rokkit Launcha
3 Killa kans + 3 Rokkit Launcha
22 Ork Boyz + Nob + Power Klaw + Bosspole
22 Ork Boyz + Nob + Power Klaw + Bosspole
22 Ork Boyz + Nob + Power Klaw + Bosspole
5 Lootas
1x Deffkopta + T/L Rokkit launcha + Buzzsaw
1x Deffkopta + T/L Rokkit launcha + Buzzsaw
1x Deffkopta + T/L Rokkit launcha + Buzzsaw


Good luck! May Mork and Gork Toothily grin upon you!

Like your list, but I'd add 5 more lootas in exchange for 1 koptas... 2 koptas is enough at 1500... And 1 squad of lootas will get punished easily..