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I almost killed my keyboard when I saw this to lol. I think being intered into a dreadnoaught sarcophogus without being installed into a suit would be torture just being left there to rot for eternity.

One chapter master ordered his own execution, because his decision lead to heavy losses of marines, one had his taste buds removed, self administed pain seems to be common, personal crusades are also a common punishment with the marine and maybe a few choosing to follow him not being able to return until a relic/weapon has been recovered or a mission has been accomplised.

BluntmanDC wrote:One chapter master ordered his own execution, because his decision lead to heavy losses of marines, one had his taste buds removed, self administed pain seems to be common, personal crusades are also a common punishment with the marine and maybe a few choosing to follow him not being able to return until a relic/weapon has been recovered or a mission has been accomplised.

That was Vladimir Pugh, Chapter master of the Imperial Fists who excised his own taste buds, I think the other one was the chapter master of the Mantis Legion after the Badab Wars.

Um ouch why would he remove his taste buds of all things?

BloodDrop101X wrote:Um ouch why would he remove his taste buds of all things?

well the Imperial Fists are notoriously over the top about punishment, I mean Dorn nearly ground his legion into dust on the fortress world the Iron Warriors built trying to atone for not being there to defend the Emperor. They discuss Pugh doing it after he lost a large number of marines on a campaign in the book Sons of Dorn, saying that he vowed he would never taste again for having wasted the lives of his brethren. He's known as a meticulous planner, so losing marines unnecessarily is not acceptable in his book. Besides this is the legion that invented the pain glove, a suit made of neural fibers that simulates being on fire....

Not even in death does dishonor end. I'm pretty sure that no amount of punishment is EVER enough to fully wipe clean the sins of an astartes who dares to defy even the smallest of the emperor's holy dictates, even by accident.

Ailaros wrote:Not even in death does dishonor end. I'm pretty sure that no amount of punishment is EVER enough to fully wipe clean the sins of an astartes who dares to defy even the smallest of the emperor's holy dictates, even by accident.

true enough, it seems most astartes who feth up never forgive themselves, even if their brothers in arms do. Sergeant Pasanius never forgave himself for having a bionic arm made of necron living metal, he felt as if he'd been permanently tainted and constantly performed self penance in the form of cutting aquilas into his flesh.

I never realised marines would feel this way about their wrong doings....

BloodDrop101X wrote:I never realised marines would feel this way about their wrong doings....

yeah their pretty serious about it, you have to remember they're warrior monks of the highest caliber, they're like the flagellants of middle ages, normal life to them is constant struggle, deprivation, and hardship, so when they feel they've messed up in the eyes of the Emperor and the only family they know, then simply sitting alone and thinking about what they've done is not enough. Like I said the IF take it to a whole new level, In the Inquisition War series, the IF Lexandro D'arquebus is described as having melted the flesh off his right arm with acid, after which he laser etched the names of his two closest comrades into the bones of his forearm when they died in battle.

Asherian Command wrote:If its a regular space marine probably they are forced to watch Jersey shore.

Or any reality TV program, my roommate was watching jerry Springer and I thought I was going to have to murder him (my roommate and jerry Springer both).

I think the space marine to give a punishment that fits each individual case, unlike imperial guard and the commissar's pistol. The leader of the mantis warriors was filled with so much guilt for his crime that the council decide that letting live in prison was a worse punishment than death. They can be like this their are so few sinful space marines that they can treat each case with so much attention.

Mr Nobody wrote:I think the space marine to give a punishment that fits each individual case, unlike imperial guard and the commissar's pistol. The leader of the mantis warriors was filled with so much guilt for his crime that the council decide that letting live in prison was a worse punishment than death. They can be like this their are so few sinful space marines that they can treat each case with so much attention.

agreed, I'd say it's also up to chapter custom as was stated earlier, with the Iron Snakes doing trial by...well...giant snake, and chapters like the Ultramarines using death quests and whatnot.

Well, you've also got to remember that the imperium exists at all based on a superstructure of fear and guilt. If the emperor just gave away forgiveness, he'd lose all of his power.

I mean, what's better, telling a marine chapter that once they've done a certain set of things their sins will be forgiven and they can go back to normal, or to brutally guilt and taskmaster them for endless millenia dangling the carrot of forgiveness just out of reach.

Just ask the citizens of Kreig...

Ailaros wrote:Well, you've also got to remember that the imperium exists at all based on a superstructure of fear and guilt. If the emperor just gave away forgiveness, he'd lose all of his power.

I mean, what's better, telling a marine chapter that once they've done a certain set of things their sins will be forgiven and they can go back to normal, or to brutally guilt and taskmaster them for endless millenia dangling the carrot of forgiveness just out of reach.

Just ask the citizens of Kreig...

or Vostroya for that matter, this is true and you can actually even use that as an example of today's modern day "feel good" religions, if the space marines were taught that "the Emperor is love and he forgives your sins" then I'd say chaos would've won in the blink of an eye.

Wow I never would have thought of the space marines as giant warrior monks more warriors than anything but its amazing the way they feel about the emperor they are so loyal its just incredible

SilverMK2 wrote:They are sent to become an Ultramarine.

lol nice

is it strange that every time I curse over this thread the first thing that pops into my head is a space marine with a ball gag?

Brother Heinrich wrote:is it strange that every time I curse over this thread the first thing that pops into my head is a space marine with a ball gag?

You just had to make me search for that, didn't you?

Necroman wrote:

Brother Heinrich wrote:is it strange that every time I curse over this thread the first thing that pops into my head is a space marine with a ball gag?

You just had to make me search for that, didn't you?

but of course. The real question we're all wondering is, did you find one? The people want results!

BloodDrop101X wrote:What happens when a Space Marine gets in crazy deep crap with his chapter do they put them in jails or what?

If they do something small, like, be too lax or fail a mission they get penance (basically the same as getting grounded, but for longer- Raven guard 10th captain korvydae got a year for failing the raids on kasorel-novem (IA vol. 8)
but if they mess up loads, like, accidentally loose off a coulpe of bolter-rounds in the middle of a stealth raid, resulting in the death of a fellow battle-brother, he gets re-programmed as a servitor.

Commander Endova wrote:

Spoiler:

Pasanius is punished by being made to stay on Maccrage while his company is sent to war, and may oly wear black robes of penitence. His crime is failing to mention that an augmentic limb he received was tainted by Necron Living Metal.

you say that like its a bad thing........