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2010/10/07 02:20:29
Subject: Re:Worst Badguy mess ups in movie history!
loki old fart wrote:Transformers 1985 cartoon movie
unicron
1. huge planet sized robot that eats other planets
2. betrays all knowing master (primacron)
3. turns badass villian into nearly unstoppable badass villian (megatron into galvatron)
4. survives a moon exploding inside of him
5. rakes hand over cybertron as if he is raking his hand through wet sand
6. crushes starships with bare hands and breathes fire on others
7. some of the best villian lines of all time (" you underestimate me galvatron" procedes to transform and scare the life out of galvatron)
8. all knowing himself (knows who's dead, who's not and where they are)
9. dies when an insignificant little ball of light is opened inside of him and plays 80's rock music
EPIC FAIL
Yea you KNOW it was the 80s music right? Seriously 80s rock music was proven to be a WMD for real! It just melts faces in mass quantities!!
"Evacuate? In our moment of triumph?"
2 minutes later... no more Tarkin, no more Death Star... oops!
The odds were on Tarkin's side, climbing into a small shuttle while enemy fighters were engaged would not have been smart, except in hindsight. The destruction of the Death Star was only obviously going to happen from the perspective of the fourth wall.
Guitardian wrote:
Thulsa Doom:
"...see the strength in your body... the desire in your heart... I GAVE THIS TO YOU!"
Conan: (chop off Thulsa's head) thinking to self... yup, you sure did...
Thulsa Doom was one of the best thought out villains not the worst. People complain about his turning into a snake. However 'useless' it appears to be in a low magic universe this ability is proof of great power, and that keeps his cultists in awe of him. Methinks you are spoiled by expectation of seeing Jedi powers or high level cleric spells being dished out like candy to infer 'power'.
In the end with his guards having failed him, not being able to run ansd being unwilling Thulsa Doom gives 'diplomacy' a very good go. Like Saruman his hyponotic brainwash ability was something he could rely on, usually. He couldnt fight Conan, but he might be able to charm him by sorcerous words, and gave it a go.
Magic in both settings is not like D&D, its more subtle and story driven and base on will and choice words. Thulsa Doom's approach was an intelligent one, there couldnt have been many things he could say to even begin to talk Conan down, the words were very clever actually, if futile against a willful hero the magnitude of Conan.
Guitardian wrote:
Conan then goes on to brood about his meaning in life, wearing the crown of Aquilonia on a troubled brow etc etc, now bereft of any motive for living since he finally had his revenge he had been seeking since a boy.
Fabulously artistic ending to an artistic film, though I am not suprised you cannot see this, do you like your entertainment lowbrow?
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
Fabulously artistic ending to an artistic film, though I am not suprised you cannot see this, do you like your entertainment lowbrow?
I havn't gone through them in much detail, but I'm pretty sure the forum guidelines frown on personal attacks. Particularly on such a benign topic.
Keep calm, man. Deep breaths!
Fabulously artistic ending to an artistic film, though I am not suprised you cannot see this, do you like your entertainment lowbrow?
I havn't gone through them in much detail, but I'm pretty sure the forum guidelines frown on personal attacks. Particularly on such a benign topic.
Keep calm, man. Deep breaths!
You are misreading that. 0% anger, 100% incredulity. Guitardian can choose what he likes/dislikes freely, but he added 'reasoning' to his choice that is so askew as to be pretty much opposite to reason.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
garret wrote:Grevious.
I GOT A LIGHTSABER YET I DONT REFLECT THE BULLET FROM TH LASER AIMED AT MY HEART.
so stupid. or count dooku.
I am not a Star Wars expert, but I always took Grevious as using lightsabres because he was part robot, not a force user, and you need to use the force's psychic power of prediction to have the reflexes needed to reflect a laser bolt.
In the hands of a non force user, or a robot/cybernetic organism, a lightsabre is a recipe for disaster, hence why no one else used one.
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Mekboss Thurukk wrote:Along the same lines as theocd's Bond Villains - although this sort of thing often applies to heroes as well.
Making sure the guy's dead.
Alright, so you've taken down your nemesis, rescued (or kidnapped) the girl and everything's peachy. Would it really kill you to put a round through the guys skull, just to be sure? I know you're not opposed to killing - you slaughtered legions just to get into this place, and even if you're out of ammo, you could use that backup weapon you have holstered there.
But - oh no, you've decided instead to turn around, put your BACK to the guy, and start kissing/talking/discussing your maniacal plans.
Look! He's getting up! Just there! His hand's twitching! No? Aaaand now you're dead. Screw this, I'm getting another drink. Anyone want a beer?
Kills me, every time.
Man! I just watched a John Wayne western, and after the big gunfight at the end, he gets ready to walk away, then turns and shoots the bad guy laying on the ground one more time....just to make sure. I about flipped my mind! And of course, with my 10 second memory, forgot the title of the film. It was one of his later works....I'll have to rewatch them and see which one it was. I know it wasn't the last 3 or 4 ( True Grit, Rooster Cogburn, The Cowboys, The Shootist etc). Maybe Big Jake or Cahill U.S. Marshall......
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The Klingons/Romulans/Any Star Trek bad guy.
Swing around the sun, kill Kirk, take Genesis.
End of the Federation.
And don't give me any of that TNG Time Police crap.
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.Only a fool believes there is such a thing as price gouging. Things have value determined by the creator or merchant. If you don't agree with that value, you are free not to purchase.
Lets just sit here shooting each other rather than using the super-powerful computers we have to automatically take us in and out or warp so we can't get hit.
Of better yet, develop a warp powered kinetic missile.
Hello planet, meet this large mass going at warp 9.9... bye planet!
Fabulously artistic ending to an artistic film, though I am not suprised you cannot see this, do you like your entertainment lowbrow?
I havn't gone through them in much detail, but I'm pretty sure the forum guidelines frown on personal attacks. Particularly on such a benign topic.
Keep calm, man. Deep breaths!
You are misreading that. 0% anger, 100% incredulity. Guitardian can choose what he likes/dislikes freely, but he added 'reasoning' to his choice that is so askew as to be pretty much opposite to reason.
Fabulously artistic ending to an artistic film, though I am not suprised you cannot see this, do you like your entertainment lowbrow?
I havn't gone through them in much detail, but I'm pretty sure the forum guidelines frown on personal attacks. Particularly on such a benign topic.
Keep calm, man. Deep breaths!
You are misreading that. 0% anger, 100% incredulity. Guitardian can choose what he likes/dislikes freely, but he added 'reasoning' to his choice that is so askew as to be pretty much opposite to reason.
My mistake. I withdraw my criticism
No, you were right first time. The post looked a lot 'nastier' than intended.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
Guitardian wrote:
Thulsa Doom:
"...see the strength in your body... the desire in your heart... I GAVE THIS TO YOU!"
Conan: (chop off Thulsa's head) thinking to self... yup, you sure did...
Thulsa Doom was one of the best thought out villains not the worst. People complain about his turning into a snake. However 'useless' it appears to be in a low magic universe this ability is proof of great power, and that keeps his cultists in awe of him. Methinks you are spoiled by expectation of seeing Jedi powers or high level cleric spells being dished out like candy to infer 'power'.
In the end with his guards having failed him, not being able to run ansd being unwilling Thulsa Doom gives 'diplomacy' a very good go. Like Saruman his hyponotic brainwash ability was something he could rely on, usually. He couldnt fight Conan, but he might be able to charm him by sorcerous words, and gave it a go.
Magic in both settings is not like D&D, its more subtle and story driven and base on will and choice words. Thulsa Doom's approach was an intelligent one, there couldnt have been many things he could say to even begin to talk Conan down, the words were very clever actually, if futile against a willful hero the magnitude of Conan.
Guitardian wrote:
Conan then goes on to brood about his meaning in life, wearing the crown of Aquilonia on a troubled brow etc etc, now bereft of any motive for living since he finally had his revenge he had been seeking since a boy.
Fabulously artistic ending to an artistic film, though I am not suprised you cannot see this, do you like your entertainment lowbrow?
If you are interested you should get your hands on the book the movie was based on, it is slightly different but nonetheless brilliant (Will see if I can find it, running around in my car somewhere at the moment)
2010/10/08 18:21:26
Subject: Re:Worst Badguy mess ups in movie history!
im coughing up blood , uh obi can ... yoi come back tommorow?
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