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syanticraven wrote:
Although if you want an immensely fun game with 'bad' graphics go play minecraft classic.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

kenshin620 wrote:

syanticraven wrote:
Although if you want an immensely fun game with 'bad' graphics go play minecraft classic.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Lol its that bad??

The games pure awesome.

I say Runescape is better,cuz you don't have to pay for a ordinary account and you can have ALL the skills (except the member ones),unlike WoW. But I think people say it's gay cuz I hear that it gives some computers Viruses. But I say it's safe. It's a good game. Go play it!

Runescape is a predecessor to WoW, therefor WoW players have their ego hurt by Runescape's existence (because they continually want to believe that WoW is the first and best MMO).

Its just boring. And It has the worst graphics. And plus my entire school went through the Runescape phase. Only I and 12 others just played Diablo 2 and laughed at the stupidity of others of not getting this truly awesome game.
Yes thats right They choose Runescape Membership OVER DIABLO 2!

It was my first MMO but became pretty boring after 2 months and almost everyone in my school played it
I agree with Asherian diablo 2 is epic

Runescape was enticing at first, but after you hit, say, Level 25, you either loose interest, or get addicted, and buy membership. Although I know some people who loose interest at level 50. Now the only reason I'm on is to mess around.
And Diablo 2 rules.

Thread necromancy is only a really big deal if the info in the thread is topical and by the time the necro comes along the info is no longer relevant.

1 months between replies is not ideal, but it certainly doesn't necessarily mean the thread *needs* to be locked.

If you ever think a thread should be locked due to confusion caused by thread necromancy, then click the 'alert' button on the post that necro'd the thread and mods will make a call about whether or not the thread should be locked.

You don't need to make posts about how the thread should be locked because all that does is help to keep an old thread artificially pushed up to the top of the forum.


Anyway, in this case, all the spam posts have been cleaned out and I'll leave the thread open in case anyone else wants to discuss the game further.

So yeah Runescape.

I quite enjoy watching Runescape Music Videos, I generally find good ones are better then normal music videos and some of them are pretty well edited.

I thought this one was pretty good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbWrtc0ZTPQ

It's one of those games I keep meaning to try, but in general as I play WoW and enjoy it theres little point.

My problem is nothing from the game itself, the graphics to me aren't a massive issue coming from the Commodore/Spectrum era, hell I was playing Ishar 2 just the other day.

No my issue is the fact its fantasy, as I'm playing WoW a second fantasy MMO is little use to me, it was why Lotr didn't last long for me.
WaR may have lasted longer had it been any good, but in general I've played other MMO's that aren't in the fantasy gnere much longer.

City of Heroes for example I still occasionallly sub for a month even now, have a look how things are going etc.

I might take a look one day, but from what I've seen it doesn't look as awful as some folks try to insist it is.

Runescape is a Browser based game, as I see it (being both an ex-everquest and ex-runescape player). Both games are grindfests, detail of runescape isn't that good, but then accessibility for runescape is good (you don't have to download gigabytes to run it on a different system).

gameplay on both is similar, but runescape's quests I percieve to be a little more humorous. There's even a 4th wall reference ingame.

I played runescape long before i ever tried wow or any other basement troll game my brothers were playing. I found it to be slow, boring, and to be honest I had more fun watching screens of text fly by me playing MUDs. I couldn't honestly get into any MMO because the aspects everyone was saying were fun, to me, were boring and a waste of my time.
Runescape is oldschool man, play it just to say you did... but it's in no way good and there's a FLOOD of MMOs on the market since "D&D on a computer" Wow came out. You can do better

I've never been a fan of the old school style MMOs which tend have unforgiving death penalties and features. The same can be said about WoW where it’s extensive grind requirement can be quite unforgiving (especially when months of grinding for awesome items are invalidated after the release of a new expansion and picking up a few cheap greens on the AH ).

If you can live with this, more power to you otherwise I’ll always be a fan of the more casual style MMOs like Guild Wars, DDO and LOTRO.

Yeah and runescape now is having a fall-out season in my grade. Like anyone that use to play now play either wow or something like Halo.

Its weird that spike during 5th or 6th grade in the interests of gaming and thats how i think we get introduced to the Big Problem Pron is then introduced, and who can we thank of course, Runescape.

*sigh* I was hopping this nerdy part of my gaming hobbies would come out here....but I guess I can't hold it back any longer...

*Nerdiness Emerging...*

So you have an idea of my MMO background and gaming experience with such titles, I've played the following:

Anarchy Online (all expansions starting at Tower Wars)
Everquest 2
World of Warcraft (Vanilla and every expansion to date)
Aion
Lineage 2 (up until the first chronicle expansion)
Guild Wars (up to first expansion)

*Note: these are in no particular order.


Now I have to disagree with you on the fact that you do not need to quest in WoW to level, you can run dungeons all day and level just as fast if not faster. I also have to admit, if you didn't see a lot of changes or fixes made with WoW's patching every Tuesday, then you must not have been playing to much. Because from time to time, they changed a lot of things, even going as far as to give full talent tree resets for no cost. Or changes to game mechanics or spells. There's just not a lot the developers need to change every week with patches unless something came up that was considered "game breaking". Then it would be patched and fixed.

Runescape is seen as a beginners MMO game. The graphics (from the last time I saw it) aren't very impressive.

Now WoW is no graphics winner in that category there are quite a few that have much superior graphics, Aion, Guild Wars, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, Final Fantasy Online, all of which have much more robust graphics engines and spell animations.

However, none of them so far have quite as good a draw into the game world as WoW has done and whether you hate WoW or not, every single new MMO game released is compared to WoW.

WoW's quest lines tie into the story pretty well if you actually read them and follow them, do they skip around, perhaps, but that's if you skip zones, but typically if you're into lore of the game and the story of the quest WoW's developers have kept that intact for WoW lore guru's. You might need to read some of the many books that have been written to get ALL of the story details, but you'll get the basic understanding from the quests in the game, and if you've payed the most recent WC3 and WC3: Frozen Throne games. They can tie up some gaps you might have.

Blizzard just managed to blend questing, dungeons, pvp (to a point) and end game raiding into one package that doesn't really disappoint.

Now, what you do get, is a lot of little kiddies in WoW, that use the internet's anonymity to their advantage and become cyber bullies to anyone. And just talk large amounts of trash simply because they can. Or they feel because their guild is in the end game content, so that makes them better then anyone else. But I digress, my point being they do a lot of "hating" on other games in the genre, especially games they feel are to childish or poor looking compared to the game they're currently playing.

For example, I still enjoy playing Counter-Strike 1.6 (based on the original Half-Life engine) the graphics are dated but the game is still fun as hell for me. So I still play, but compared to younger gamers only playing the new Counter-Strike Source or Medal of Honor or Call of Duty series of first person shooters they miss the intrinsic value that comes from growing up with the game. They only see an outdated game with bad graphics when compared to the new counterparts.

Ok, think I'm done ranting now.

*Nerdiness receding...*

Peace~

The Shattering is now live and almost every original zone in WoW is overhauled, some drastically. This means the majority of the old quests are gone and new ones subbed in. Leveling experience has also been streamlined, especially with all the recently introduced features that just make life so much easier... And if you have the power to run it, the graphics are pretty damn good! They've gotten better with the new patch too, considering almost the entire old world is changed...

I agree the new WoW patch looks very good. Haven't really done any new stuff today, maybe tomorrow.

I remember awhile back when some of my friends told me to play Runescape. I tried it, and it took me about five minutes to realize I didn't like it. I was a lot younger but still, I could never fuller grasp the game. WoW is just way more accessible, as MMOs should be, and that was my problem. Sure, its free, but there's actually other free games of a much higher quality, like League of Legends.

Well, that's the way I see it at least. I don't have the time to play more than one MMO, and I went with WoW, so be it.

And a good choice it was. \m/

Fexor wrote:
Now I have to disagree with you on the fact that you do not need to quest in WoW to level, you can run dungeons all day and level just as fast if not faster.

Okay fair enough Wow has dungeons to grind over and over again, probly gaining nothin worthwhile after the first 5 runs. But wait, thats only available at lvl 10 iirc so what is advised for getting to lvl 10?? Quests. Sad to say it up from lvl 1 to 10 you need to quest to more than likely get the best Xp per hour.

Fexor wrote:I also have to admit, if you didn't see a lot of changes or fixes made with WoW's patching every Tuesday, then you must not have been playing to much. Because from time to time, they changed a lot of things, even going as far as to give full talent tree resets for no cost. Or changes to game mechanics or spells. There's just not a lot the developers need to change every week with patches unless something came up that was considered "game breaking". Then it would be patched and fixed.

Hmm not playing much?? I spent haf a year (From this January to be exact] and played almost every day but i still seen very little in the form of patches, didnt even see any while playing my alts.

Fexor wrote:WoW's quest lines tie into the story pretty well if you actually read them and follow them, do they skip around, perhaps, but that's if you skip zones, but typically if you're into lore of the game and the story of the quest WoW's developers have kept that intact for WoW lore guru's. You might need to read some of the many books that have been written to get ALL of the story details, but you'll get the basic understanding from the quests in the game, and if you've payed the most recent WC3 and WC3: Frozen Throne games. They can tie up some gaps you might have.

The fact that you can skip zones can makes the quests lines a bit "Uh ok did i miss something" but who wants to read lines of text just to learn what to do. From th GUI for a quest then id say Runescape is a bit more friendly, sure its still text but not a big paragraph of just the NPC talking. Not only that but Runescape implemets cutscenes mid quest and iv hardly seen that in Wow.

Fexor wrote:Now, what you do get, is a lot of little kiddies in WoW, that use the internet's anonymity to their advantage and become cyber bullies to anyone. And just talk large amounts of trash simply because they can. Or they feel because their guild is in the end game content, so that makes them better then anyone else. But I digress, my point being they do a lot of "hating" on other games in the genre, especially games they feel are to childish or poor looking compared to the game they're currently playing.

Im not even gonna comment on this as youve pretty much hit it on the head lol.

I will admit i will more than likely go back to Wow for a while after Cata comes out but atm ill stick with Runescape.

Fexor wrote:
Now I have to disagree with you on the fact that you do not need to quest in WoW to level, you can run dungeons all day and level just as fast if not faster.

johnscott10 wrote:Okay fair enough Wow has dungeons to grind over and over again, probly gaining nothin worthwhile after the first 5 runs. But wait, thats only available at lvl 10 iirc so what is advised for getting to lvl 10?? Quests. Sad to say it up from lvl 1 to 10 you need to quest to more than likely get the best Xp per hour.

Oh noooooo! Quests? In an RPG? WHY BLIZZARD, WHY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
And besides, from levels 1-60 most of the old quests are gone and replaced with shiny new ones, in shiny new zones, with a more streamlined leveling process.
Not to mention, starting at level 10 (and leveling from 1 to 10 is the fastest in the game and can be done in less than 2 hours) you never have to quest again to level, since you get XP for doing battlegrounds. (which is pvp)
Therefore, there are 3 distinct ways you can gain xp; if you're not satisfied with that, then I suggest you sell your PC and buy a Wii.

Fexor wrote:I also have to admit, if you didn't see a lot of changes or fixes made with WoW's patching every Tuesday, then you must not have been playing to much. Because from time to time, they changed a lot of things, even going as far as to give full talent tree resets for no cost. Or changes to game mechanics or spells. There's just not a lot the developers need to change every week with patches unless something came up that was considered "game breaking". Then it would be patched and fixed.

johnscott10 wrote:Hmm not playing much?? I spent haf a year (From this January to be exact] and played almost every day but i still seen very little in the form of patches, didnt even see any while playing my alts.

I don't know what game you were playing but I've seen plenty of patches over the course of my time playing WoW. In fact, this last year and a half have had a metric f***ton of patches; how you managed not to see a single one is beyond me.

Fexor wrote:WoW's quest lines tie into the story pretty well if you actually read them and follow them, do they skip around, perhaps, but that's if you skip zones, but typically if you're into lore of the game and the story of the quest WoW's developers have kept that intact for WoW lore guru's. You might need to read some of the many books that have been written to get ALL of the story details, but you'll get the basic understanding from the quests in the game, and if you've payed the most recent WC3 and WC3: Frozen Throne games. They can tie up some gaps you might have.

johnscott10 wrote:The fact that you can skip zones can makes the quests lines a bit "Uh ok did i miss something" but who wants to read lines of text just to learn what to do. From th GUI for a quest then id say Runescape is a bit more friendly, sure its still text but not a big paragraph of just the NPC talking. Not only that but Runescape implemets cutscenes mid quest and iv hardly seen that in Wow.

The only people who skip zones are people in a hurry to level cap, or people who have done the zone before. The first group don't give a rat's ass about the lore anyway, and the 2nd have already seen the quests and played the storyline. And now with Cataclysm, almost every zone from 1-60 has new quests. They've also evened up the zones for leveling purposes. And as for cutscenes, WoW has had a few cutscenes during quests, but they prefer to share the storyline in realtime. Nothing wrong with that at all, and the only real difference most of the time is that you're in control of your character during the 'cutscene'.

Fexor wrote:Now, what you do get, is a lot of little kiddies in WoW, that use the internet's anonymity to their advantage and become cyber bullies to anyone. And just talk large amounts of trash simply because they can. Or they feel because their guild is in the end game content, so that makes them better then anyone else. But I digress, my point being they do a lot of "hating" on other games in the genre, especially games they feel are to childish or poor looking compared to the game they're currently playing.

johnscott10 wrote:Im not even gonna comment on this as youve pretty much hit it on the head lol.

This is true, but guess what other game has shrieking 10 year olds in it all the time? And guess which game doesn't cost their parents 15 smackers a month, meaning more of those shrieking 10 year olds can play said game? If the name of the game is in this thread's title, then you win +3 internetz and 5 cookie crumbs.

johnscott10 wrote:I will admit i will more than likely go back to Wow for a while after Cata comes out but atm ill stick with Runescape.

If by "after Cata comes out" you mean "After they change everything" then that time is now. If you specifically mean "When I can level past 80 and make a worgen/goblin character" then you have to wait slightly more than a week.

MasterDRD wrote:

Fexor wrote:
Now I have to disagree with you on the fact that you do not need to quest in WoW to level, you can run dungeons all day and level just as fast if not faster.

johnscott10 wrote:Okay fair enough Wow has dungeons to grind over and over again, probly gaining nothin worthwhile after the first 5 runs. But wait, thats only available at lvl 10 iirc so what is advised for getting to lvl 10?? Quests. Sad to say it up from lvl 1 to 10 you need to quest to more than likely get the best Xp per hour.

Oh noooooo! Quests? In an RPG? WHY BLIZZARD, WHY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
And besides, from levels 1-60 most of the old quests are gone and replaced with shiny new ones, in shiny new zones, with a more streamlined leveling process.
Not to mention, starting at level 10 (and leveling from 1 to 10 is the fastest in the game and can be done in less than 2 hours) you never have to quest again to level, since you get XP for doing battlegrounds. (which is pvp)
Therefore, there are 3 distinct ways you can gain xp; if you're not satisfied with that, then I suggest you sell your PC and buy a Wii.

It may seem as if this comment makes quests bad, but quests can make or break the game. Its just a shame that 9/10 of the Wow quests are "Go kill "x" of "monster" or either "Collect "x" items from "monster". By no mean is that bad if you like mindless killing. Lvling on Wow i cant comment on since the newest patch.

MasterDRD wrote:

Fexor wrote:I also have to admit, if you didn't see a lot of changes or fixes made with WoW's patching every Tuesday, then you must not have been playing to much. Because from time to time, they changed a lot of things, even going as far as to give full talent tree resets for no cost. Or changes to game mechanics or spells. There's just not a lot the developers need to change every week with patches unless something came up that was considered "game breaking". Then it would be patched and fixed.

johnscott10 wrote:Hmm not playing much?? I spent haf a year (From this January to be exact] and played almost every day but i still seen very little in the form of patches, didnt even see any while playing my alts.

I don't know what game you were playing but I've seen plenty of patches over the course of my time playing WoW. In fact, this last year and a half have had a metric f***ton of patches; how you managed not to see a single one is beyond me.

By saying iv not seen any patches i meant iv not seen the effect of any of the patches, sure iv had to wait 10 mins or so for the patch to download but never have i seen its effect ingame, until i log on since the most recent patch which has changed Azeroth and the talent trees.

MasterDRD wrote:

Fexor wrote:WoW's quest lines tie into the story pretty well if you actually read them and follow them, do they skip around, perhaps, but that's if you skip zones, but typically if you're into lore of the game and the story of the quest WoW's developers have kept that intact for WoW lore guru's. You might need to read some of the many books that have been written to get ALL of the story details, but you'll get the basic understanding from the quests in the game, and if you've payed the most recent WC3 and WC3: Frozen Throne games. They can tie up some gaps you might have.

johnscott10 wrote:The fact that you can skip zones can makes the quests lines a bit "Uh ok did i miss something" but who wants to read lines of text just to learn what to do. From th GUI for a quest then id say Runescape is a bit more friendly, sure its still text but not a big paragraph of just the NPC talking. Not only that but Runescape implemets cutscenes mid quest and iv hardly seen that in Wow.

The only people who skip zones are people in a hurry to level cap, or people who have done the zone before. The first group don't give a rat's ass about the lore anyway, and the 2nd have already seen the quests and played the storyline. And now with Cataclysm, almost every zone from 1-60 has new quests. They've also evened up the zones for leveling purposes. And as for cutscenes, WoW has had a few cutscenes during quests, but they prefer to share the storyline in realtime. Nothing wrong with that at all, and the only real difference most of the time is that you're in control of your character during the 'cutscene'.

Ill admt i skipped zones but not for any of the above reasons, its kinda hard when your new and you reach like lvl 30 then you have a choice of what zone to go to (and due to my luck i went to the wrong one) so most of the quests make the player go

MasterDRD wrote:

Fexor wrote:Now, what you do get, is a lot of little kiddies in WoW, that use the internet's anonymity to their advantage and become cyber bullies to anyone. And just talk large amounts of trash simply because they can. Or they feel because their guild is in the end game content, so that makes them better then anyone else. But I digress, my point being they do a lot of "hating" on other games in the genre, especially games they feel are to childish or poor looking compared to the game they're currently playing.

johnscott10 wrote:Im not even gonna comment on this as youve pretty much hit it on the head lol.

This is true, but guess what other game has shrieking 10 year olds in it all the time? And guess which game doesn't cost their parents 15 smackers a month, meaning more of those shrieking 10 year olds can play said game? If the name of the game is in this thread's title, then you win +3 internetz and 5 cookie crumbs.

Yea there may be more 10 year olds on runescape but because theres such a vast world where none of the high lvls gather the 10 year olds are spread out and are rarely ran into. Also not only that but there are over 100 worlds(servers) in runescape that if they do happen to swarm a place then hop worlds, or better yet if you know where everything is go onto the foreign servers in a diff language, sure you wont understand what the other players are saying but it gets rid of those 10 year olds.

MasterDRD wrote:

johnscott10 wrote:I will admit i will more than likely go back to Wow for a while after Cata comes out but atm ill stick with Runescape.

If by "after Cata comes out" you mean "After they change everything" then that time is now. If you specifically mean "When I can level past 80 and make a worgen/goblin character" then you have to wait slightly more than a week.

Actually it will be more than a week as i currently do not have the funds for playing Wow due to Uni and Warhammer minis lol.

Edit: Quote Fixes

XD I spent 10 minutes on my own post... Take your time.

Ok that should be it now lol.

Ok screw this quoting thing.
1. Yeah a lot of quests involve killing things. Then again, isn't that one of the central points of the game? Killing things? However, in the expansions there are a lot more different/fun quests, and we don't know what similar quests they might have added to the 'old world' until we level through it to find out...

2. There have been quite a few noticable changes, such as the equipment manager, random dungeon finder, quest objectives showing on the map, rehauled talent system, etc. Not to mention added content, although if you were a low level obviously you wouldn't have noticed that...

3. Point granted, that was a flaw in the design. However they've fixed that now, and it still didn't make the game any less enjoyable...

4. Going as far as to change languages entirely? Besides, that doesn't mean there aren't any kiddies around, it just means they're shrieking at you in moonspeak.

5. Not having funds hasn't stopped me from wasting the last week leveling characters up to 10 on a trial account, both to feed my addiction and to check out all the recent changes.
Anyway I'm kinda in the same boat there...

MasterDRD wrote:Ok screw this quoting thing.
1. Yeah a lot of quests involve killing things. Then again, isn't that one of the central points of the game? Killing things? However, in the expansions there are a lot more different/fun quests, and we don't know what similar quests they might have added to the 'old world' until we level through it to find out...

2. There have been quite a few noticable changes, such as the equipment manager, random dungeon finder, quest objectives showing on the map, rehauled talent system, etc. Not to mention added content, although if you were a low level obviously you wouldn't have noticed that...

3. Point granted, that was a flaw in the design. However they've fixed that now, and it still didn't make the game any less enjoyable...

4. Going as far as to change languages entirely? Besides, that doesn't mean there aren't any kiddies around, it just means they're shrieking at you in moonspeak.

5. Not having funds hasn't stopped me from wasting the last week leveling characters up to 10 on a trial account, both to feed my addiction and to check out all the recent changes.
Anyway I'm kinda in the same boat there...

1. Yea ill agree to that, its just a wait and see

2. Hmm im guessing that because i was probly still leveling these parches were released i may have thought of them as actualy parts of the initial release and not patches.

4. Yea that only happens in extreme cases, but Runescape also has chat options that allow you to block people or just make it so you can see your friends talking, like any mmo should.

5. Would feel a waste of my time to use a trial account now, ill just wait it out till i can lvl up a Goblin Rogue lol

Wow, I seem to have kicked a hornets nest, heh.

Well, I'm not going to bother quoting right now, as there are just to many, so I'll hit over the highlights and what I can remember reading, heh.

1. Questing in all games have kills, collection quests. WoW has also had escort quests, which everyone pretty much hates, to slow, to little xp, and you get swamped with enemies, which if you're not a DPS class you really couldn't kill (at low levels) because you didn't have the dps to push. (this has been fixed since vanilla wow, but it was an issue early on)

As a side note: You could've tried Lineage 2, there are NO QUESTS in the game at all, only creatures to kill and dungeons to run, that is it, and the dungeons are at much later levels, so the only way to level is to grind and yes I mean truly grind your levels out...which is why I didn't stay long playing it, because that is just not much fun for me. The Korean company learned this and adopted a WoW aspect with AION where there are quests but if you want to grind by just killing creatures you can level that way to, drawing a bigger crowd. And as noted before you can level with PvP now.

2. The game does look better with the updates, I am (sad to say) currently unable to play, not because of money, but because I'm deployed to Iraq until the middle of next year, so I will only be able to get my WoW fix from forums/Wowhead and the like. However, the world is looking better and I really like the new water physics they added, looks a lot better.

3. As previously stated the patches changed a whole plethora of things within the game, mainly taking things that were addons and making them part of the game GUI. Or adding features like the LFG/LFR (looking for group/ looking for raid) windows and services and making them (except the raid one) available for cross realm players. So now I can group with people across 4-5 other servers, that's HUGE!!! No other game has given you that kind of option and ease of use when looking for groups. No more spamming for groups, you just hop in the LFG and wait for a group to form, to easy and simple and that was a major change. Among other things, like the talent changes. Regrettably, unlike the LFG most of those big changes were only seen by maxed level characters, if you didn't have one you wouldn't notice them. Not to mention alot of the littler changes were class mechanics, so if you don't play that class or PvP very much you're not going to see those effects.

4. I have multiple toons, 2 of them at max level (80) and about 3-4 toons sitting around the 65-78 area in level. So skipping zones for me is just to maximize my time spent leveling. I know the quests and the story line enough for my own enjoyment, I'm not WoW lore nerd so I honestly don't get into that to much unless the quest chain interests me, which most don't. As for being a new player, then yes, having to pick between 2 - 3 zones to level up in when you reach the next level bracket can be confusing and a little daunting at times. HOWEVER, zones will give you quests when you reach the appropriate level to go the next zone and which the story and quest lines will flow together. Leading you without many holes. Now there are times when you can get quests that lead you to two different areas for the next leveling bracket, that's really your call to go through and do which one you want if not both.

5. I'm glad you enjoyed my screaming kiddies example, because it is very true. The only game I played in the MMO world that doesn't have screaming kiddies was Anarchy Online (also known as AO) due to the fact that game had such character, level, item and custimization complexities kiddies just didn't get the hang of it and left, it was the most fun MMO environment I've ever played in. Just wish Funcom would bring it up to Graphics level and stream line their GUI/button setups to make it more easily playable and it would be golden.

Anywho, I digress, WoW has it's ups and downs compared to RS, but I feel (imo) that is has more ups then downs.

In my eyes the only really redeeming feature of runescape was the quests; there were a large amount of them, they were constantly added and unlike the majority of other MMORPG's ive played they had a continuous story the struck a good balence between giving information and leaving some to speculation.

Its a pity that the rest of the game sucked and the target market was under 13's.