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How about with the BS on 2 hands its

1st round of combat: Counts as flail (initial vigor and momentum)
Rest of combat: Counts as halberd

EmilCrane wrote:Because its a game.
Why can only Imperial Guard officers issue orders?
Why does the Empire only get detachments?
Why do only the Blood Angels use the Storm Raven?
Why can't empire knights form the Lance?

Factions get special bonuses in games, even if logically other factions should be able to use unit x or ability a. It adds variety and balance.

Because detachments represent the uniquely regimented training approach of the Empire, just as lance represent the unique skill of Bretonians.

The bastard sword represents nothing but the desire to upgrade dismounted Bretonian knights to elite infantry.

The rule doesn't add variety or balance, that's a lot of the problem.

you know who could've used these guys? the french army at agincourt

Captain Solon wrote:you know who could've used these guys? the french army at agincourt

Lol

But seriously they weren't that dumb, they did dismount, it just didn't help them any


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sebster wrote:

Because detachments represent the uniquely regimented training approach of the Empire, just as lance represent the unique skill of Bretonians.

The bastard sword represents nothing but the desire to upgrade dismounted Bretonian knights to elite infantry.

The rule doesn't add variety or balance, that's a lot of the problem.

Ok, we get it, you don't like the idea.

Do you have any suggestions to make it better or not?

EmilCrane wrote:Ok, we get it, you don't like the idea.

Do you have any suggestions to make it better or not?

I'd drop the points cost, to make them the same as greatswords for the Empire. They'd have a slightly poorer basic save, but they would have a bastard sword that could be used one handed with shield, with the AP rule, or used two handed to give +1 Str and AP, which is considerably more versatile than a standard greatsword.

I'd play test from there.