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Why do they only have armor 3+?!?! Nice profiles otherwise.

power armour is still power armor, the ones who were described as having heavier armour have the 2+ save, Angron however has a 4+save since he doesn't even wear power armour

It depends what era.

true, thunder armour would be a 4+ Save lol.
The fluff for most of the primarchs does not really indicate if they wore heavier armour (with a few exceptions) it also helps ballace and to diferentiate between the larger /tougher primarchs (Ferrus)

Yeah thunderarmor fails compared to most space marine armor.
Lets see Iron armor techincally should be a +2
and i forget the other ones D:

nah, Iron armor was a bit heavier in front, but not artificer or terminator good. Not enough to actually affect gameplay basically. Thunder Armor was basically obsolete at the start of the GC. That said, I would think that the primarchs would have a 2+ save, as current chapter masters and techmarines have access to power armor that grants a 2+. Check out

http://z15.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Crusade/index.php?s=97525c6b991cf8219cb50b091855e064&act=idx

They have a lot of good info collated pretty well for ya.

Leman Russ
WS BS S T W I A LD SV
6 6 7 7 5 6 6 10 3+/4++
Wargear: Blade of morkai (see logan grimnar)
Bolter (CC weapon)
Special rules: Bezerker: once per game Russ may go into a berzerk rage, he and his unit gains +D6 attacks (max10)
Not just a beast: Russ crude exterior belies a shrewd tactition, he may give D6 infantry units the following USR
Hit and run, Scout, tank hunter.

BTW Grimnar got the Axe of Morkai off a chaos champion he killed; not from Russ

EDIT: Oh wait! Did you mean it has the same kind of rules?

Leman Russ
WS BS S T W I A LD SV
6 6 7 7 5 6 6 10 3+/4++
Wargear: Blade of morkai (see logan grimnar)
Bolter (CC weapon)
Special rules: Bezerker: once per game Russ may go into a berzerk rage, he and his unit gains +D6 attacks (max10)
Not just a beast: Russ crude exterior belies a shrewd tactition, he may give D6 infantry units the following USR
Hit and run, Scout, tank hunter.

Don't you mean the Spear of Russ?

Personally, I feel Angron should have the highest WS. His should be 9, and then the Lion and Wolf at 8. I would also up Ferrus Manus's S by 1.

Rep: Lord of battles, yep i meant same rules not actual piece of wargear

Rep: Asherion, Yep i meant spear of russ... sloppy on my part


Darkness, Angron of all the primarchs was probebly the least skilled weapon wise (appart from A and O) That is not to say he wasnt a power house, also note he hits on a 2+ always

WS 9 is the reserve for the 2 most skilled primarchs... Horus and Sanguinius, im pretty sure no one disagrees that these 2 could kill any one of the the other primarchs and im a Dark Angels fan, WS 10 is a no go for any of them as that is for gods of war... The Big E and Avatars, Bloodthirsters (fantasy)

As to the Armour saves, I'm sorry i didnt explain properly, it is a balancing factor as well as a fluff tribute, so yep they "may" have had articifer armour across the board, but it would be no fun if the primarchs were win buttons.

As to the special rules, i am useing existing rules where available, where EVERY other primarch thread fails is that they overcomplicate them with too many special rules, 2-3 is more than enough.

What did you guys think of Alpharius's rules?