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Lycaeus Wrex wrote:

Jabbdo wrote:I'm sorry, aren't we meant to post up lists into a forum titled: "40k Army Lists"??

If this is the case, then I apologize.

If not, feth off, and stop trolling. This goes for ph34r too. You guys flamed my list, saying it sucked. I gave you this. What now? Sad because there's nothing you can flame here?

Just for the record I didn't 'flame' your other list. In fact, I don't think I even posted on your other list (except for the other Razorspam one). My point is, that if this is merely an extension of the 1500pt list, why not make an addendum in that thread and add the list there? Instead of creating an entirely new one just to prove you can break a codex even further?

This thread proves nothing other than you can spam Razorbacks with Space Wolves. I still don't know exactly what your trying to prove, as this was a well-known fact prior to you starting this thread, except to show all the other naysayers who slammed your other threads that you can build a spam-happy list. If thats so then congrats, you've managed it.

The list is very, very competitive and is good because of that. Outside of tournaments, however, this will see you ostracised from gaming clubs quicker than you can blink. One final thing; the reason I reacted with such virtriol is that I hate to see lists like this. They are un-imaginative, un-fun, un-fluffy and basically highlight all of the things I hate about the current internet-meta.

L. Wrex

Fair enough.

I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm not sure why you keep asking that.

I wouldn't play this list against a random opponent at my FLGS either. Maybe at a tournament.

I would snicker at someone who would bring this list to their FLGS and watch as they're shunned for their simple minded belief that they are the greatest.

Many people who play lists of this nature really only understand a single mechanic of the game: Shooting. More often than not they don't realize their opponent can pin them in their own little armored shoe box and rape their face. The most satisfying thing to see is a list like this get schooled by older codices or less "tooled up" armies solely because the player with the Razorspam forgot about the other 2 phases of the turn.

Too bad kids these day's jump on the bandwagon with these lists...maybe that's why everyone thinks Western culture is on the decline.

As to which weapons are better on Razorbacks...the ratings are simple:

1) T/L Assault Cannon
2) T/L Plasma Guns/Lascannon
3) T/L Lascannons

Assault cannons are the greatest and most flexible weapon available to Space Marines, hands down. Stronos pattern Razorbacks are okay, but they're mediocre at AT and AP so they fall in the middle. T/L Lascannons are just fancy Lascannon death. To date, one of the best lists that I've seen using Razorspam included all 3 types of the Razorbacks and it proved immovable on more than one occasion. People would hope for the assault only to see genestealer hordes mowed down by 12 assault cannon shots. TH/SS terminators would vaporize from plasma and torrents of fire while Trygons just had nowhere to hide.

Balance is necesaary in everything, even in spam. No balance = asking for trouble.

Well one thing is there are lots of people who have tons of razorbacks I have 4 and I have 4 rhinos. And 2 land raiders XD. But i need air support. Which is covered by a thunderhawk

But this list is good. Apart from it being a space wolf list.

Thanks!

This was really just a test to see if I could fit 12 lasplas into 2000pts, and still have an army that works.

My 2 cents on the matter:
1- Spam lists are fun for me to read.
2- Either they are unbalanced and boring or weirdly challenging to play against, so it is hard to find player to use it with.

By the way, I checked the list and it sums 1937 points, so either I suck at maths or something elluded my grasp...
I see it this way:

HQ:
Rune Priest, chooser, hurricane, living lightning 110

ELITE:
4 Wolf Guard, 3 combi melta, 1 storm bolter 90
AssCann 75

4 Wolf Guard, 3 combi melta, 1 storm bolter 90
AssCann 75

4 Wolf Guard, 3 combi melta, 1 storm bolter 90
AssCann 75

TROOPS:
5 Grey Hunters, flamer 75
Lasplas 75

5 Grey Hunters, flamer 75
Lasplas 75

5 Grey Hunters, flamer 75
Lasplas 75

5 Grey Hunters, flamer 75
Lasplas 75

5 Grey Hunters, flamer 75
Lasplas 75

5 Grey Hunters, flamer 75
Lasplas 75

HEAVY SUPPORT:
4 Long Fangs, 3 ML 90
TL/LS 75

4 Long Fangs, 3 ML 90
TL/LS 75

4 Long Fangs, 3 ML 90
TL/LS 75

= 2000 Points

So, either SPAM ROCKS or SPAM SUCKS, I would play against this list (I'm not SW player) and win, draw, lose or lose miserably, but have fun anyway, since I play this game for the fun of it, not just to win, whether my SPAM enemy does too, or not. Let their fun be their problem.
I recently posted a NIDZILLA list, for the fun of it, and got critics like these but all the way around, it was not competitive (not created to be) and some people did not like it, ok, I don't enterily disagree, just think lists and schemes like these might inspire other people to create their own list, adding their ideas and tactics...