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ShadowZetki wrote:Well technically communism did work in maoist china





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Whats so funny?
Honestly mao turned a socially and technologically backwards country and completely advanced it, the people had the power they deserved. Farms were turned into cooperatives and later the peoples communes eliminating competition to enhance production and later develop more technology so workers could do other things they wanted to do. The poor and middle-lower were huge fans of this because food production was doubled, Industry became less lopsided and grew to meet the needs of chinas military, chinese agriculture was also rapidly mechanized infact by 1973 90% of counties in china had repair shops for agricultural machinery

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ShadowZetki wrote:
Well technically communism did work in maoist china they were pretty damn near absolute communism as for the great leap forward mao didnt even do that, that was deng xiaoping(a capitalist) and mao even told him do not lie about our food production your plan wont work, lo and behold mao was right and deng xiaoping apologized to the chinese people, also pol pot was not a maoist he didnt even say he was until after mao had died and he didnt even support the gang of four


If you're telling me that the dictator responsible for the highest death rate of any nation in the history of the world ever, was a 'success', then you're going on ignore for creating an intentionally flamebaiting and trolling thread.

65 Million people died in China as a result of violence and starvation under that monster. His ideology and vision was bathed in blood, seas of it.



 
   
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You make that sound like a bad thing.
   
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MeanGreenStompa wrote:
ShadowZetki wrote:
Well technically communism did work in maoist china they were pretty damn near absolute communism as for the great leap forward mao didnt even do that, that was deng xiaoping(a capitalist) and mao even told him do not lie about our food production your plan wont work, lo and behold mao was right and deng xiaoping apologized to the chinese people, also pol pot was not a maoist he didnt even say he was until after mao had died and he didnt even support the gang of four


If you're telling me that the dictator responsible for the highest death rate of any nation in the history of the world ever, was a 'success', then you're going on ignore for creating an intentionally flamebaiting and trolling thread.

65 Million people died in China as a result of violence and starvation under that monster. His ideology and vision was bathed in blood, seas of it.


Well 1. Mao didnt do that, I just said it was Deng Xiaoping 2. No actuall known number of deaths is really known so to say 65 million you dont truly know that.


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Nurglitch wrote:You make that sound like a bad thing.


I thought I told you to go away and stop trolling cause your pretty bad at it, you have absolutely nothing to contribute in this debate and until you do goodday

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I think debating the NUMBER of MILLIONS of DEATHS in something like this is...uh, well.
Irrelevant?
The forced industrialisation of China killed tens of millions. That is to me, a failure of the policy. If medicare killed tens of millions, you can bet you'd call it a failure.

   
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wizard12 wrote:Also, may I add a few people may be interested in talking about this, I don't see this thread as a troll, I see this as a response to recent ignorance in this forum (not mentioning any names Monster Rain)


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Da Boss wrote:I think debating the NUMBER of MILLIONS of DEATHS in something like this is...uh, well.
Irrelevant?
The forced industrialisation of China killed tens of millions. That is to me, a failure of the policy. If medicare killed tens of millions, you can bet you'd call it a failure.


Well yes the unkown amount of deaths is irrelevant I suppose, in anycase Mao's great leap forward policy wouldnt have had the stravation deaths had Dang Xiaoping actually listened to Mao when he had said do not lie about our food production it will not work hence Mao was right and despite Dang Xiaoping publicly apologizing to the chinese people for what he had done Mao took all the "heat" from the western media. But you must realise Mao made china able to support itself in so many ways there is so much unheard good he did because not many care to listen.

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Monster Rain wrote:Oh good another communism thread.

I love communism, I'm all for it. Finally those capitalist pigs will pay for their crimes, eh comrades?


I for one welcome our new Communist Overlords and look forward to my new Dacha as part of the ruling elite. After all, even though we are all equal in the worker's paradise, some are more equal than others.

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Frazzled wrote:
Monster Rain wrote:Oh good another communism thread.

I love communism, I'm all for it. Finally those capitalist pigs will pay for their crimes, eh comrades?


I for one welcome our new Communist Overlords and look forward to my new Dacha as part of the ruling elite. After all, even though we are all equal in the worker's paradise, some are more equal than others.


Oh come on man, you could have atleast made a compelling argument or something other than that!
   
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ShadowZetki wrote:Oh come on man, you could have atleast made a compelling argument or something other than that!


You do understand that this is the Off-topic section of a forum discussing toy soldiers?

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Oh, well then, if Deng Xiaoping was at fault and not communism, that makes it all right. Can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggheads, amirite?
   
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Yes, but is it really that wrong to half-way expect sensible people let alone compelling comments?
   
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Nurglitch wrote:ShadowZetki:

I don't have to be very educated, just better educated than you!


Slonshal Nurglitch. I never saw the
"just have to swim faster than my friend when the shark comes" theory applied so uniquely.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Nurglitch wrote:Oh, well then, if Deng Xiaoping was at fault and not communism, that makes it all right. Can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggheads, amirite?


What makes you think I approve of what Deng Xiaoping did? Did I say that just because it was him and not communism it makes things okay? No I didnt think so so dont put words in my mouth
   
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MeanGreenStompa wrote:
ShadowZetki wrote:
Well technically communism did work in maoist china they were pretty damn near absolute communism as for the great leap forward mao didnt even do that, that was deng xiaoping(a capitalist) and mao even told him do not lie about our food production your plan wont work, lo and behold mao was right and deng xiaoping apologized to the chinese people, also pol pot was not a maoist he didnt even say he was until after mao had died and he didnt even support the gang of four


If you're telling me that the dictator responsible for the highest death rate of any nation in the history of the world ever, was a 'success', then you're going on ignore for creating an intentionally flamebaiting and trolling thread.

65 Million people died in China as a result of violence and starvation under that monster. His ideology and vision was bathed in blood, seas of it.


Also China did not start improving economically until POST MAO with internal regime and strategy change.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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ShadowZetki wrote:Yes, but is it really that wrong to half-way expect sensible people let alone compelling comments?


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You will learn.
   
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I believe I posted those words...
   
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Frazzled wrote:
Nurglitch wrote:ShadowZetki:

I don't have to be very educated, just better educated than you!


Slonshal Nurglitch. I never saw the
"just have to swim faster than my friend when the shark comes" theory applied so uniquely.

Yeah but I mean one it dosent seem like he was very capable of proving he is better educated than me, and isnt that you know pretty pathetic?
   
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ShadowZetki wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Monster Rain wrote:Oh good another communism thread.

I love communism, I'm all for it. Finally those capitalist pigs will pay for their crimes, eh comrades?


I for one welcome our new Communist Overlords and look forward to my new Dacha as part of the ruling elite. After all, even though we are all equal in the worker's paradise, some are more equal than others.


Oh come on man, you could have atleast made a compelling argument or something other than that!

Why? I look forward to my new Dacha. Unlike the workers I won't be starving come winter. Ain't life grand?

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Monster Rain wrote:
ShadowZetki wrote:Yes, but is it really that wrong to half-way expect sensible people let alone compelling comments?


You are young; life has been kind to you.

You will learn.

Are you kidding me? Life has not been kind to me, I just simply believe people can be halfway decent


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Frazzled wrote:
ShadowZetki wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Monster Rain wrote:Oh good another communism thread.

I love communism, I'm all for it. Finally those capitalist pigs will pay for their crimes, eh comrades?


I for one welcome our new Communist Overlords and look forward to my new Dacha as part of the ruling elite. After all, even though we are all equal in the worker's paradise, some are more equal than others.


Oh come on man, you could have atleast made a compelling argument or something other than that!

Why? I look forward to my new Dacha. Unlike the workers I won't be starving come winter. Ain't life grand?

Well because oh why the feth am I even bothering at this point? You people barely listen at all or just for the most part say some slowed gak

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ShadowZetki wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Nurglitch wrote:ShadowZetki:

I don't have to be very educated, just better educated than you!


Slonshal Nurglitch. I never saw the
"just have to swim faster than my friend when the shark comes" theory applied so uniquely.

Yeah but I mean one it dosent seem like he was very capable of proving he is better educated than me, and isnt that you know pretty pathetic?


Someone who believes the bs put out by Cuba really shouldn't be making statements about who's more educated. If Nurglitch and I agree on something: 1) yes ma a rip in space and time has just occurred; 2) the other side is really really off; 3) even though we are in agreement Nurglitch is still a poopy head.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Frazzled wrote:
ShadowZetki wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Nurglitch wrote:ShadowZetki:

I don't have to be very educated, just better educated than you!


Slonshal Nurglitch. I never saw the
"just have to swim faster than my friend when the shark comes" theory applied so uniquely.

Yeah but I mean one it dosent seem like he was very capable of proving he is better educated than me, and isnt that you know pretty pathetic?


Someone who believes the bs put out by Cuba really shouldn't be making statements about who's more educated. If Nurglitch and I agree on something: 1) yes ma a rip in space and time has just occurred; 2) the other side is really really off; 3) even though we are in agreement Nurglitch is still a poopy head.

Actually I havent heard anything from cubam so dont assume things. No idea what a rip in space and time has to do with anything, well I'm not exactly really really off per se. Personally I think he is a dick at this point
   
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Thats not slowed. I thought you were educated. An educated person would know about Animal Farm if he's going to discuss the glories of being a commie pinko. Sadly this opponent is unworthy. Where's Dogma and his multiquotes when you need him?

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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I think it's more the fact you hold up maoist china as an example of working communism, a regime which killed tens of millions of people. Then when that's pointed out, you try and wave it under the carpet. That kind of makes Western Humanists stop taking you seriously, y'know?


 
   
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ShadowZetki wrote:Well because oh why the feth am I even bothering at this point? You people barely listen at all or just for the most part say some slowed gak


The little critters of nature. They don't know that they're ugly!

That's very funny; a fly marrying a bumblebee.

Frazzled wrote:Thats not slowed. I thought you were educated. An educated person would know about Animal Farm if he's going to discuss the glories of being a commie pinko. Sadly this opponent is unworthy. Where's Dogma and his multiquotes when you need him?


We'd end up discussing something completely beside the point and debating the meaning of the word "as" before you could blink.

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ShadowZetki wrote:Well because oh why the feth am I even bothering at this point? You people barely listen at all or just for the most part say some slowed gak




   
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Hold on everyone I'm only one person I cant keep up with all the posting its seriously starting to wear me out. okay monster rain no idea what anything you said means.
Ketara I'm not trying to sweep anything under the carpet not at all, western humanists? Dude I dont quite care what people think of me and honestly nobody ever takes me seriously to begin with because I'm 16 so good one with that comment
Frazzled Have you actually been to cuba? Probably not, have I? No, what does sadly this opponent is unworthy even mean?



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ShadowZetki wrote:Well because oh why the feth am I even bothering at this point? You people barely listen at all or just for the most part say some slowed gak





I didnt say everyone in anycase come on man thats so uncalled for

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Frazzled, Monster Rain, and so on are continuing the usual running jokes. All we need now is a weiner dog picture, and we have the full deck.

And you say you are not trying to sweep it under the carpet, but when someone points out the fact that killing all those people might make it be seen as less than an amazing model, you basically go , 'nuh uh! They were never really sure how many died!' as if its a counterargument.

Like I said, things like that means that people who would otherwise weigh in seriously to a debate think that you don't have a clue what you're talking about, and just crack jokes instead.

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If you going to argue the merits of seomthing you need to actually know what those merits and limitations are. Animal Farm was an allegorical critique of communism.

Raul Castro said recently that they needed to start privatizing or Cuba would not survive.

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