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Ketara wrote:Frazzled, Monster Rain, and so on are continuing the usual running jokes. All we need now is a weiner dog picture, and we have the full deck.
And you say you are not trying to sweep it under the carpet, but when someone points out the fact that killing all those people might make it be seen as less than an amazing model, you basically go , 'nuh uh! They were never really sure how many died!' as if its a counterargument.
Like I said, things like that means that people who would otherwise weigh in seriously to a debate think that you don't have a clue what you're talking about, and just crack jokes instead.
Yeah I noticed it's kinda sad to know, I mean I'm fully aware between 15-50million people died I was just merely pointing something out, but how much better does it look for them to use dated childish jokes to a 16 year old trying to actually you know have a serious conversation? Also I was in now way trying to sweep something under the carpet
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Ignoring the millions of people who died as part of Maoist China, you'll notice that China did not join the ranks of the industrialized nations until private industry invested in the country and a certain amount of *gasp* capitalism took hold.
Also, this is the OT Forum. Serious conversations are few and far between.
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I think it's mainly because every two months or so, we have a teenager come on OT who espouses how amazing communism is, and how they can defend it against any serious critique, yet never seems capable of providing a coherent argument or counterargument. The result being that most people have stopped taking it seriously. It's actually become a bi-monthly event by this stage of the game.
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Yup. Communism didn't work until some towering giants of industry grasped their own bootstraps and pulled themselves and China itself out of agrarian poverty.
Sgt_Scruffy wrote:Ignoring the millions of people who died as part of Maoist China, you'll notice that China did not join the ranks of the industrialized nations until private industry invested in the country and a certain amount of *gasp* capitalism took hold.
Also, this is the OT Forum. Serious conversations are few and far between.
Yeah I hadnt really known serious conversations were pretty much all but dead
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Iur_tae_mont wrote:
Yay full deck!
What is that!?
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Ketara wrote:I think it's mainly because every two months or so, we have a teenager come on OT who espouses how amazing communism is, and how they can defend it against any serious critique, yet never seems capable of providing a coherent argument or counterargument. The result being that most people have stopped taking it seriously. It's actually become a bi-monthly event by this stage of the game.
Seriously? Oh holy crap, and here I was hoping people would actually take me serious at any point to begin with...
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Ketara wrote:
Frazzled, Monster Rain, and so on are continuing the usual running jokes. All we need now is a weiner dog picture, and we have the full deck.
Soviet Union: 10MM to 25MM from internal purges and starvation. Entire peoples wiped out.
Mao your hero: 25MM to 100MM wiped out in camps and starvation. China set back in its unique form of hell until the new regime which realized you can make money and get rich.
Cambodia: 1 in 4 people died when the Khmer Rouge took over. 1 in 4.
Vietnam: re-education camps. tens of thousands died. o one is sure.
North Korea: literally hell on earth.
Cuba: formerly one of the leading Latin countries, now an absolute backwater. Even Ecuador can kick its ass.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Frazzled wrote:Soviet Union: 10MM to 25MM from internal purges and starvation. Entire peoples wiped out.
Mao your hero: 25MM to 100MM wiped out in camps and starvation. China set back in its unique form of hell until the new regime which realized you can make money and get rich.
Cambodia: 1 in 4 people died when the Khmer Rouge took over. 1 in 4.
Vietnam: re-education camps. tens of thousands died. o one is sure.
North Korea: literally hell on earth.
Cuba: formerly one of the leading Latin countries, now an absolute backwater. Even Ecuador can kick its ass.
Can we atleast agree North Korea is a Theocracy? Khmer Rouge okay that is how you spell it thankyou, odd thing is I kinda think pol pot was an opportunist he didnt declare himself a maoist until mao had died and he didnt even support the gang of four. I thought the estimated deaths for the great leap forward was 16-50million? Eh tbh I'm not oo much a fan of fidel castro he distorted Che's Image (hence why I originally wanted to stick with just plain marxism it's not truly as warped as many may think, mostly just people adding thier own spin on it to call it theirs)
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ShadowZetki wrote:Okay umm, that is also odd. Can we umm lock this thread? please?
BLAME THE VICTIM!!!11!!
What?
Automatically Appended Next Post: Seriously can any mod close this thread or something? And I had kinda just realised that this setting was on where I get emailed everytime someone posts on this so uh my email is likely flooded
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It's a running joke in OT to try and derail threads with pictures of daschunds, probably because Frazzled owns a couple.
I'm a bit disappointed with the fervour that some of you have tried to derail this thread- I'm pretty sure it is violating the much vaunted rule 1. I also don't think anyone will do anything about it though. If the OP asks, seriously, for people to stop the jokes, it's polite to do so.
Go take a political science degree. I'm sure there are people in academia who can discuss your opinions with you without openly mocking you to your face.
Nurglitch wrote:Go take a political science degree. I'm sure there are people in academia who can discuss your opinions with you without openly mocking you to your face.
I have a feeling even if I did that people would still not discuss my open opinions and just simply mock me with different things than what you guys are mocking me with
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Da Boss wrote:I'm sure he will, when he's out of highschool.
What did he do to provoke you? Be a kid who is interested in politics?
Huh?
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1. Writing a coherent and grammatically correct response adds weight to your argument.
2. Bandying your age around as an excuse does not endear you or what you're saying.
3. Lacking the humility, wisdom, maturity and insight to simply admit you are wrong does not speak volumes about how you will further conduct your debating here.
5. Having a fit of pique when people take your fairly odd arguments and statements and mock them simply provides further excuse (and perhaps justification) for it to continue.
6.Grow up. If you want a sensible discussion, conduct yourself with more bloody gravitas.
