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My brother used to play this alot. I bought him a real guitar.

I still have my japanese copy of the first rhythm tengoku game for gba. THAT is what I think of when people mention "music-based game"


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Chicago

The heyday of Rock Band and Guitar Hero has come and passed.

They were great games. They were never particularly "hardcore" and were very repetitive. But, they made for great party games, and quite a bit of fun if you've got an hour or two to kill. And, for people like me who have zero musical talent, it was an enjoyable experience.

But, people have gotten bored with them. Plus, they're now over-saturated with really junky squeals (an Aerosmith game? really?) and no innovation beyond making things more complex. I have a friend who was a hardcore Rock Band fanatic, but even he has traded in his instruments.

The new Rock Band looks cool, but it's way too intimidating to new players. Plus, they've now completely crossed the line from "video game simulation" to "actual thing". I played these games because I couldn't play guitar but enjoyed pretending I could. With the newest game, it makes more sense to actually go buy a guitar. It's the same level of "simulation" for about the same price, but an actual guitar has unlimited songs!

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The new Guitar does do. It works with an amp.

 
   
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Ol' Blighty

my bro can play dragonforce songs on expert on guitar hero. the lowest score i've seen him get is 80%.


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Ouch:

http://wii.ign.com/articles/114/1142516p1.html

 
   
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Princeton, WV

I am glad these games are dying or are already dead. These games were nothing more than a show off outlet, akin to something like I have better shoes than you or a more expensive car. The only time I have seen someone enjoying these games is when they have an audience. If they played it solo, it was only to make them selves better for when the next time they had their friends over. South Park had it right...

The market was over saturated and killed itself. If the companies they made these games complain, well they need to look in a mirror for the recipient. Seriously, Guitar Hero 5? Look at the time it took to make 5 Resident Evil games now look at guitar hero. See my point? This isn't even taking into account all the spin offs like the Beatles, Metallica, Rockband, DJ hero to name a few. There have been more guitar hero based games than Final Fantasy and it is one of the oldest franchises. Heck if the market didn't fall for these games now, then I bet they would surpass the incarnations of Mario games within a year or two.

Rockband 3 was designed to bridge the gap between actual music and the make believers who play these games. However once they realized that they would need to play more than 5 buttons, they figured this is too much like work and said that the heyday was over. If Rockband would have came out three years ago, it would have been the same thing. People enjoy pretending that they can play guitar. Sure it takes some skill to play songs but they are not playing it for an achievement or a trophy. They are playing the songs on expert so people on youtube and friends in their living room can look at them in awe.

All this is is a glorified Mario Paint. "Look mom, didn't I make a nice picture?" Sure the program did it for the kid and all he had to do was click a button. It took no art skill at all to blend all those colours into that nice looking mario rainbow, but damn it sure looks like he did! This isn't saying that playing songs on expert doesn't take skill, sure it does but oh what a waste of skill it is. To think what someone playing an actual guitar and taking lessons from a free internet program could have done in the time someone else spent playing all these games. In ten years they can still play a guitar while the other guy's guitar hero guitars are selling for $3.00 in his mom's yardsell.





   
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Well I don't agree with that. Many people enjoy the game and not just to show off but I like many grew tired of the genre but I'm just saying that its a shame Activision managed to burn out an entire genre in 4 years by releasing uninovative sequels. Wouldn't be surprised if they do the same with Call of Duty soon.

 
   
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I was tired of this scene about halfway through Guitar Hero 3.

I thought the first one was brilliant but it really was getting old and I couldn't shake the feeling that if I practiced on a real guitar for the amount of time that I was pretending to play I'd actually be able to play those songs for real.

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Princeton, WV

Well I could imagine that you wouldn't agree with everything, but you have to admit releasing almost 20 games in 4 years totally messed up the market. If they were more innovative like you said and further apart, people would still be enjoying them. Honestly Guitar Hero 2 & 3 could have been Downloadable add on content for the first one, (pretty much were but marketed as totally new games). Its the reason why a lot of sports games do not hold their value. They change the rosters and add a few new things each year, but they are pretty much the game from the year before. If they were made like a lot of the timeless classics we would just now be on Guitar Hero 3. It takes 2 years to get a sequel to most games, (games that are innovative) and that didn't happen with any of these games.
   
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:Well I don't agree with that. Many people enjoy the game and not just to show off but I like many grew tired of the genre but I'm just saying that its a shame Activision managed to burn out an entire genre in 4 years by releasing uninovative sequels. Wouldn't be surprised if they do the same with Call of Duty soon.


CoD has already started down this path. Mark my words: In a few years, Black Ops will be looked at as the death of the FPS genre.

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Heck, people are already saying that Grakmar. I mean a year after MW2? I bet we get MW3 within a year and a sequal to Black Ops 6 months after that. Then it will truly be over.

Honestly I can't stand those games based on the fact that they always stall other good games. Nobody wants to compete with them so they wait months until the hype dies down so their games will sell decently.
   
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Monster Rain wrote:I was tired of this scene about halfway through Guitar Hero 3.

I thought the first one was brilliant but it really was getting old and I couldn't shake the feeling that if I practiced on a real guitar for the amount of time that I was pretending to play I'd actually be able to play those songs for real.


I reached my own guitar hero "market saturation" around that time too. Although I still enjoyed the Rock Bands (not green day, sorry don't care).


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Grakmar wrote:
KamikazeCanuck wrote:Well I don't agree with that. Many people enjoy the game and not just to show off but I like many grew tired of the genre but I'm just saying that its a shame Activision managed to burn out an entire genre in 4 years by releasing uninovative sequels. Wouldn't be surprised if they do the same with Call of Duty soon.


CoD has already started down this path. Mark my words: In a few years, Black Ops will be looked at as the death of the FPS genre.


Lord Scythican wrote:Heck, people are already saying that Grakmar. I mean a year after MW2? I bet we get MW3 within a year and a sequal to Black Ops 6 months after that. Then it will truly be over.

Honestly I can't stand those games based on the fact that they always stall other good games. Nobody wants to compete with them so they wait months until the hype dies down so their games will sell decently.


I will mark your words Grakmar. Black Ops won't be looked at as the death of FPSs its the most successful piece of entertainment medium of all time. Maybe MW3 or COD in Space (that's real) will kill COD but not FPSs. Medal of Honour proves its better to make a subpar military FPS than an original property and IP.

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Jewett City, CT

Iur_tae_mont wrote:These games should have never come to light in the first place. If those guys that get 100% on the highest difficulty on Youtube actually picked up a guitar and played it as often as they played GH, they could have learned that same song on guitar.
I agree with you completely...however...i know i am a geek for this, but i enjoy playing DDR alot...it is a very physically active game and is fun to go against friends who play it also. and rockband is only fun when you play with friends...if music games where you play fake instruments have to exist then they should just leave it as a game and leave real instrument plaing seperate and if the person wants to learn to play then they should buy an actual instrument


Happy war gaming to all and to all a good fight

 
   
 
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