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2010/12/04 22:57:38
Subject: Re:Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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Or use their weapons against them... World Eater army using SW rules for me. It's almost like having my Chaos 3.5 again. Almost.
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2010/12/04 23:24:28
Subject: Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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Seems like back in 4ed GW was moving towards more homogenous armies, and that's why they gutted CSM for the 4ed codex and seperated daemons. Now for 5th edition they seem to have done an about face, and are writing codices to be as broken as possible with the goal of selling as many "special" minis as possible. I have a sinking feeling that when Chaos gets it's turn again, GW will be moving back towards lame duck books, thus screwing chaos players all over again.
To be fair though, CSM is still a very competative book. Just very boring.
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Veteran Sergeant wrote:Oh wait. His fluff, at this point, has him coming to blows with Lionel, Angryon, Magnus, and The Emprah.  One can only assume he went into the Eye of Terror because he still hadn't had a chance to punch enough Primarchs yet.
Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.
warboss wrote:I marvel at their ability to shoot the entire foot off with a shotgun instead of pistol shooting individual toes off like most businesses would.
Mr Nobody wrote:Going to war naked always seems like a good idea until someone trips on gravel.
Ghidorah wrote: You need to quit hating and trying to control other haters hating on other people's hobbies that they are trying to control.
ShumaGorath wrote:Posting in a thread where fat nerds who play with toys make fun of fat nerds who wear costumes outdoors.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good thing it wasn't attacked by the EC, or it would be the assault on Magnir's Crack.
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2010/12/04 23:31:00
Subject: Re:Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Vaktathi wrote:Well, in all honesty, its stupid we have so many Loyalist marine books. We don't need a grip of more SM book, even though the differences between the various Chaos Legions are much greater than say, Ultramarines and Dark Angels or Black Templars and Space Wolves. If any marines *should* have seperate books, it should be the Legions, but honestly, the game needs fewer marine books, not more.
What is the difference between SMs and Dark Angels exactly? First it was the long range dreadnought, then it was plasma weapons I think, but aside from the special organisations of the first and second company (and now that SMs have Bikes for troops too that doesnt really matter) there doesnt seem to be any difference at all.
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
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2010/12/05 00:05:35
Subject: Re:Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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MechaEmperor7000 wrote:Vaktathi wrote:Well, in all honesty, its stupid we have so many Loyalist marine books. We don't need a grip of more SM book, even though the differences between the various Chaos Legions are much greater than say, Ultramarines and Dark Angels or Black Templars and Space Wolves. If any marines *should* have seperate books, it should be the Legions, but honestly, the game needs fewer marine books, not more.
What is the difference between SMs and Dark Angels exactly? First it was the long range dreadnought, then it was plasma weapons I think, but aside from the special organisations of the first and second company (and now that SMs have Bikes for troops too that doesnt really matter) there doesnt seem to be any difference at all.
Basically it was just FoC swapping, that was it. Which is why its silly to have so many disparate SM books. DA's have a preference for plasma weapons a bit more than other chapters, but that's simply reflected in loadout nothing else.
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New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights!
The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts. |
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2010/12/05 00:49:50
Subject: Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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The only extra plasma gadgets they get is the Master of Ravenwing's Plasma Cannon Jetbike, and even that is outbeat by the wolves (again!) due to bjorn having the same thing (but better due to his BS6).
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
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2010/12/05 09:23:31
Subject: Re:Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Lord of the Fleet
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MechaEmperor7000 wrote:Vaktathi wrote:Well, in all honesty, its stupid we have so many Loyalist marine books. We don't need a grip of more SM book, even though the differences between the various Chaos Legions are much greater than say, Ultramarines and Dark Angels or Black Templars and Space Wolves. If any marines *should* have seperate books, it should be the Legions, but honestly, the game needs fewer marine books, not more.
What is the difference between SMs and Dark Angels exactly?
If you brought all the wargear in line with the new C: SM codex then differences are:
Special Character that makes termies troops
Special Character that makes ravenwing troops (including land speeders!)
Termie squads can mix CC and shooting weps
Ravenwing squads
Hunt the Fallen special rule
That would make a great WD article / download.
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2010/12/05 11:01:12
Subject: Re:Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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And the reason that DA is so similar to the 5th ed Marine Codex? They took all the good stuff from the 4th ed DA codex, gave it steroids and put it in C:SM!
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2010/12/05 11:14:19
Subject: Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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They should go 'generic marines','we might be evil marines' 'religous zealot marines' 'melee flawed marines', 'viking marines' and 'we have demon marines' then allow people to use any 1 of the codieces and fluff their army accordingly.
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2010/12/05 11:28:10
Subject: Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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Phototoxin wrote:'we might be evil marines'
"Codex: Secret Marines. Shh!, coming November 2011"
Say that three times, and BoLS posts it as a rumour!
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Triggerbaby wrote:In summary, here's your lunch and ask Miss Creaver if she has aloe lotion because I have taken you to school and you have been burned.
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:I too can prove pretty much any assertion I please if I don't count all the evidence that contradicts it.
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2010/12/05 11:30:53
Subject: Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Phototoxin wrote:They should go 'generic marines','we might be evil marines' 'religous zealot marines' 'melee flawed marines', 'viking marines' and 'we have demon marines' then allow people to use any 1 of the codieces and fluff their army accordingly.
Black Legion, Alpha Legion(We might be good marines), Word Bearers, World Eaters and the last one isn't so viable as it would be Word Bearers again. Night Lords are better fluff-wise and gives GW a good reason to fix CSM's FA options.
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2010/12/05 14:58:43
Subject: Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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I was actually being sarcastic with my DA different from SM post >.>
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
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2010/12/05 15:02:39
Subject: Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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MechaEmperor7000 wrote:I was actually being sarcastic with my DA different from SM post >.>
Oh, sorry then, didn't get through to me.
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For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back. |
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2010/12/05 22:39:50
Subject: Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
Australia
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More codices in general would be nice but it would most likely add to the clutter of the update schedule. I’d rather prefer FW/WD release additional errata/add on rules instead.
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Goood! Goooood!
Your hate has made you powerful. Now take your Privateer Press tape measure and strike me down with all your hatred and your journey to the dark side will be complete!!!
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2010/12/05 23:06:19
Subject: Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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It's mainly why people clamore for one big "Space Marine" and "Chaos Space Marine" book instead of individual codexes. That way all of the equipment are consistent between the armies and drastically shortens update schedules. One book means there's a standardized line for all of the equipment (so we dont have Dark Angels suffering from bad Storm Shields and Apothecaries, and no more QQing about other chapters not having the Stormraven).
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
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2010/12/05 23:07:10
Subject: Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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I could care less about multiple CSM codexes...We really need the EOT codex back.
Or anything that lets you take traitor guardsmen and all that good stuff, now THAT would be appropriate for a WD-army. Even if WD did something like a 'adapting your CSM army for word bearers/ iron warriors/death guard ", I would be happy.
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If only ZUN!bar were here... |
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2010/12/05 23:10:05
Subject: Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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Samus_aran115 wrote:I could care less about multiple CSM codexes...We really need the EOT codex back.
Samus_aran115 speaks the truth here.
LoTD were the greatest army of all time.
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
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2010/12/05 23:17:20
Subject: Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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Monster Rain wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:I could care less about multiple CSM codexes...We really need the EOT codex back.
Samus_aran115 speaks the truth here. LoTD were the greatest army of all time.
I sense much sarcasm in this one  LaTD was just a cool army. If it could be anything like our current IG, it would be pretty amazing. I could see an article where it basically just says: "Use the IG codex, and exchange these units and SRs for these, yaddayadda"
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If only ZUN!bar were here... |
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2010/12/05 23:22:57
Subject: Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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you mean LoTD or LatD? Because LatD really was the greatest army of all time. LoTD is just a broken SM rehash =P
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
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2010/12/05 23:23:47
Subject: Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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MechaEmperor7000 wrote:you mean LoTD or LatD? Because LatD really was the greatest army of all time. LoTD is just a broken SM rehash =P
haha, excuse me. Yes, LaTD
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If only ZUN!bar were here... |
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2010/12/05 23:38:42
Subject: Is there a reason why specific Chaos Marine Chapters don't have a codex of their own??
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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Samus_aran115 wrote:Monster Rain wrote:Samus_aran115 wrote:I could care less about multiple CSM codexes...We really need the EOT codex back.
Samus_aran115 speaks the truth here.
LoTD were the greatest army of all time.
I sense much sarcasm in this one
LaTD was just a cool army. If it could be anything like our current IG, it would be pretty amazing. I could see an article where it basically just says: "Use the IG codex, and exchange these units and SRs for these, yaddayadda"
Actually, I was serious.
I liked LaTD a lot. The Eye of Terror needs to come back in a big way.
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W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
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