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In Titanicus, the husband is allowed to go to another planet for work, but the wife's job isn't high enough, so she agrees to work in the tertiary PDF as well.

Grass4hopper wrote:Commissar: "and a Lasgun for you, and a Lasgun for you, and a Las . . . oh wait that was the last Lasgun."
IG Recruit: "I don't get a Lasgun?"
Commissar: "No, but you can have this nice shiny bolt pistol."
IG Recruit: "But there's no trigger and it has no ammo!!!"
Commissar: "Stop wining Recruit! You can go knock one of those Chaos Space Marines over the head with you pistol and try to take his gun if the Emperor provisions aren't good enough for you."
IG Recruit: "But . . ."
Commissar: Get going before I have you executed for treason!!!"

Better than what you would have as a civilian though

TBH, the only war thing of M41 really isn't all that different from the current state of affairs. However, most imperial world aren't as brutal as one might think.

If the story is going to focus on an imperial guardsmen, I assume he is just some random soldier, then you would be looking at him fighting and his wife and kids being a part of the imperial train. So them in orbit and he is with them when he is not bringing swift justice to the enemies of the emperor.

@Lexx,
Do to some poor choices made during the heresy, the Vostroyan pledged to send their first born sons, so no lady folks with flashlight sticks.

this is basically the story only with IG and Tau/eldar

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/1851

Grudgeshield wrote:TBH, the only war thing of M41 really isn't all that different from the current state of affairs. However, most imperial world aren't as brutal as one might think.

If the story is going to focus on an imperial guardsmen, I assume he is just some random soldier, then you would be looking at him fighting and his wife and kids being a part of the imperial train. So them in orbit and he is with them when he is not bringing swift justice to the enemies of the emperor.

@Lexx,
Do to some poor choices made during the heresy, the Vostroyan pledged to send their first born sons, so no lady folks with flashlight sticks.

Pardon? I mentioned Valhallans not Vostroyans.

I refer you to the Gaunts Ghosts series:

One of the main themes in there is family relationships in the guard. A femal guardsman and a male guardsman end up becoming the surrogate parents of two children orphaned by way. It gets a little more dramatic than that but I wpnt spoil it for you.

anyway, both kids are brought up in the regiment, as soon as one kid gets old enough he enlists, now why would he do something like that? Why would he sign up for a job that certainly leads to death?

Thats all kids in the guard know. The regiment becomes family.

As for the whole, husband leaving wife behind, that happens rather often unfortunately. The thing is, if the regiment the man is in gets algamated into another regiment that has females or vice versa, the person in question usually finds love again somewhere.

This leads to a few problems as both spouses in the same regiment will fear for each others lives and be devestated if their partner dies, whether they show it or not.

Grass4hopper wrote:Commissar: "and a Lasgun for you, and a Lasgun for you, and a Las . . . oh wait that was the last Lasgun."
IG Recruit: "I don't get a Lasgun?"
Commissar: "No, but you can have this nice shiny bolt pistol."
IG Recruit: "But there's no trigger and it has no ammo!!!"
Commissar: "Stop wining Recruit! You can go knock one of those Chaos Space Marines over the head with you pistol and try to take his gun if the Emperor provisions aren't good enough for you."
IG Recruit: "But . . ."
Commissar: Get going before I have you executed for treason!!!"

All i can think about as I read this, is the film "Enemy at the Gates"

WARORK93 wrote:*snip*

I beleive the point being made was that Children born into IG regiments is not the main, or even common, way of replenishing a regiment. Of course you have to realise that any IG regiment or conglomeration of regiments will be supplemented by at least as many camp followers. That point, apart from being as basic aspect of military life, was also made in Gaunts Ghost. Children born to IG fathers (or mothers) would likely spend their time there, not at the front lines. So their induction into the regiment that fathered them is not a sure thing, and given the horrific attrition rates of some campaigns, it's not particularily likely.

mwnciboo wrote:

Grass4hopper wrote:Commissar: "and a Lasgun for you, and a Lasgun for you, and a Las . . . oh wait that was the last Lasgun."
IG Recruit: "I don't get a Lasgun?"
Commissar: "No, but you can have this nice shiny bolt pistol."
IG Recruit: "But there's no trigger and it has no ammo!!!"
Commissar: "Stop wining Recruit! You can go knock one of those Chaos Space Marines over the head with you pistol and try to take his gun if the Emperor provisions aren't good enough for you."
IG Recruit: "But . . ."
Commissar: Get going before I have you executed for treason!!!"

All i can think about as I read this, is the film "Enemy at the Gates"

I know, eh?

Lexx wrote:

Grudgeshield wrote:TBH, the only war thing of M41 really isn't all that different from the current state of affairs. However, most imperial world aren't as brutal as one might think.

If the story is going to focus on an imperial guardsmen, I assume he is just some random soldier, then you would be looking at him fighting and his wife and kids being a part of the imperial train. So them in orbit and he is with them when he is not bringing swift justice to the enemies of the emperor.

@Lexx,
Do to some poor choices made during the heresy, the Vostroyan pledged to send their first born sons, so no lady folks with flashlight sticks.

Pardon? I mentioned Valhallans not Vostroyans.

Wha....(reads the quote) Sorry, I apparantly need to get some new glasses. lol

Heh no problem. I do the same as well sometimes. But I do still think another guard regiment deserves a plastics sprue. Not everyone wants cadian or catachans. And I feel sorry for those that have most/all metal guard armies.

Yeah, they really do, but I don't know if there is enough money in it for GW to do that.

But hey, maybe IG players will get lucky and FW will start putting them out. Although the price for an army would be a tad bit high.

the Resin FW models arn't much more expensive then the Metal GW ones. they might be the same depending on the Exchange rate, but for out of pocket expense they are about the same.

Depends on which squad you want, but in most cases I think they are something like $20 or so more.

This is pure fluff for my chapter but:
The chapter was under strength due to a fight with the Grey Knights, the Apothecaries had to develop a way to restore the libido in some of the Marines so that more potential recruits can be born, however birth rates on their planet are at a high rate compared to other worlds because the quality of life is so high. So many are born from normal human parents.

Towering giants aren't exactly attractive to most of the local women. Poor Speesh Muhrines...

that makes very little sense (apart from the dangers of a human having a space marine **** them)

if the gray knights attacked them and serverly cut their numbers, how are they on an imperial world? (rebel worlds don't have high standards of liveing on a whole, and if they do not for long)

if this could be done don't you think the chaos legions would have done this?

I read there are worlds which are so far away from the Imperium that they are forgotten and the imperium pays very little attention to them.

And yeah, the reproduction aspect of Space Marines is off. The conclusion I reached in the chapters fluff is that it was quickly stopped because it wasn't returning favorable results.

Going into the biological aspect of it, I don't think the growth hormones would trigger a secondary development of sexual organs, in other words they aren't as big as a horse. The sexual organ's growth is triggered by a very specific hormone, one that (correct me if I'm wrong) is different from the hormones used to trigger muscular development.

Its not to do with how big his d*** is, its that he's 8-9 foot tall and built like a brick gakk house, he would crush a woman.

The whole thing doesn't make sense, the world would have to be pretty far out as well

^Cowgirl... just saying. (I know this is silly, but I thought I'd just throw it out there )

They're probably infertile from the process as well.

You know I don't think any serious discussion on space marine biology can ever be held. anyone with a degree in any of the sciences let alone biology or heaven forbid a medical license, can tell you the process of creating a space marine is pure techno babble.

Haha, true, gendoikari. Like I said, I know it's one of those taboo subjects like female Space Marines. Let's not go there.

Does one of the SM Chapters use grotesque genetically modified women to birth full-grown SM?

Grass4hopper wrote:Does one of the SM Chapters use grotesque genetically modified women to birth full-grown SM?

Someone been playing Dragon-age?

Lexx wrote:

Grass4hopper wrote:Does one of the SM Chapters use grotesque genetically modified women to birth full-grown SM?

Someone been playing Dragon-age?

Iirc the Iron Warriors did something weird in Dead SKy Black Sun involving... i don't really kow what they were but they ended up creating perfect copies of marines although none of them had skin so go figure.

I don't believe that multiple-gender regiments would be a common practice in the imperium of man. Societies of the past have generally employed women combatants (the modern age is the exception) only under dire circumstances - the society itself coming under attack. This was because it was the woman's burden to bear the child, and then raise the child, all the while doing the everyday activities that were essential to the family's survival: feeding and milking the goat, cooking the food which the husband had brought back, sowing the clothing that the family would wear, and much more. Therefore, the woman laying down her responsibilities to fight against an enemy would be much less practical than the man's doing so, as others can fill his role more easily (it would be likely for a male child to already be of enough years to fulfill the father's duty. Furthermore, in the event of his death, it is often a social norm for a chieftan of other brother to marry the widow and protect her until a suitable heir comes to age.). The reason this state of things has more and more ceased to be in the modern age is the increasing income of the world's general population, and the rise of technology that takes away the need for such constant work. And, the decreased need for children leads to less children, and more single females who would otherwise be tending to the house of a large family having the freedom to go and give their lives for their country. However, such luxuries are not to be in the 41st millenium, I presume, and necessity makes the place for women as it was in ages past.

Considering you have worlds with populations in the 100's of billions i don't think 10,000 or so women are going to make much of a dent in the population. Maybe in an agri-world but not a hiveworld where most (or at least a lot) of IG regiments are recruited.

But on the other hand, on world of hundreds of billions, there is no need for the women there, and they are more productive bearing children who will grow and produce more or join the guard. There is just no point.

prussia59 wrote:But on the other hand, on world of hundreds of billions, there is no need for the women there, and they are more productive bearing children who will grow and produce more or join the guard. There is just no point.

Maybe some women sign up to join the guard.
Unlikly but still possible.
Maybe some women were conscripted into the guard from gangs. There surely would be all-female gangs and when they are conscripted you end up with a mixed-gender regiment.

mwnciboo wrote:

Grass4hopper wrote:Commissar: "and a Lasgun for you, and a Lasgun for you, and a Las . . . oh wait that was the last Lasgun."
IG Recruit: "I don't get a Lasgun?"
Commissar: "No, but you can have this nice shiny bolt pistol."
IG Recruit: "But there's no trigger and it has no ammo!!!"
Commissar: "Stop wining Recruit! You can go knock one of those Chaos Space Marines over the head with you pistol and try to take his gun if the Emperor provisions aren't good enough for you."
IG Recruit: "But . . ."
Commissar: Get going before I have you executed for treason!!!"

All i can think about as I read this, is the film "Enemy at the Gates"

Haha I know all that went through my head was Russia, Russia, Russia.

DickBandit wrote:Haha, true, gendoikari. Like I said, I know it's one of those taboo subjects like female Space Marines. Let's not go there.

well my home brew chapter actually uses a squad of Female "space Marines" They don't have the genetic modifications, but due to their status with the by then chapter master, they were given the right to wear power armor and fight in the emperors name. Though it has caused a few clashes with the eclisiarch

also on birthing space marines wasn't there a book about a CSM birthing factory on one world? Cold steel? Iron something or another?