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Glad from all the responses and looks like its going to round two of Mephiston v.s. Kharn which Meph wins hands down in my book fluff wise regardless if Kharn is immune to physic powers Meph still comming at him with godly strength and speed. Also TT I can see Meph cleanin house with Kharn also

Nurglitch wrote:Khârn doesn't have an ungodly number of attacks, he has A5+1, A5+2 on the charge. Gorechild merely allows him +1D6 penetration on vehicles, not attacks. The Power Weapon effect and the 2+ to hit makes them effective though.

However, if Tycho is smart he can pop Khârn with the Bloodsong's Melta component. He's Relentless with access to Special Issue Ammunition, so with the initiative he can bleed Khârn before contact using Hellfire rounds.

Exactly what i was thinking, Tycho could do more damgae in ranged combat before closing this distance and pimp slapin Kharn lol . fluff wise it could also go same way IIRC Kharn was kinda beserkerin it up in the books and the little story from 4th ed Chaos Codex. Ive read some of Tycho's stuff and tho there isnt as much as there is on Kharn since Tycho has died I could see Tycho pulling away a win death company(probably better chance if he was death company) or not, but of course Im Imperial Biased

To kill Kharne:

A. Have an emperor Titan with 6 volcano cannons and 2 vengeance cannons more than 48" away from him.
B. Fire all weapons.
C. Boom!

Kharne. Both table top and fluff. Kharne is the chosen warrior of the god of war and has been slaughtering his way around the galaxy for 10,000yrs. Plus he is still at it and Tycho isn't!!

Yeah, but if someone who's already dead is still fighting.. he's got to be pretty awesome, right?

Nah, Tycho fails.

But as I said before, Mephiston would stomp Kharn. Sure, he's a great warrior, but it's not like he's gonna survive (in the physical sense, atleast) if he gets hit by some dude with more power than a two-hundred-mile-per-hour train in his fists.

Darkvoidof40k wrote:But as I said before, Mephiston would stomp Kharn. Sure, he's a great warrior, but it's not like he's gonna survive (in the physical sense, atleast) if he gets hit by some dude with more power than a two-hundred-mile-per-hour train in his fists.

He got run over by a Land Raider and lived. Besides, that 200 MPH train-fist would be powered by psychic energy, which we all know Khorne keeps his champion safe from.

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Darkvoidof40k wrote:But as I said before, Mephiston would stomp Kharn. Sure, he's a great warrior, but it's not like he's gonna survive (in the physical sense, atleast) if he gets hit by some dude with more power than a two-hundred-mile-per-hour train in his fists.

He got run over by a Land Raider and lived. Besides, that 200 MPH train-fist would be powered by psychic energy, which we all know Khorne keeps his champion safe from.

Once again, I point out that as that Psychic power that ups Mephiston's strength is directed at himself, and not at Kharn, it has no direct affect on Kharn, hence Khorne cannot protect him from/stop it. It's the fists he's got to dodge.

Besides, having your body crushed by a slow, trundling tank is one thing, having your head knocked off by a sword that makes him feel like a Titan just stood on him.

Honestly, Mephiston is practically on-par (or very nearly) with Primarch power now. You can't beat that. Unless.. you actually are a Primarch.

Edit: Or the equivelant number of grots equal to his points cost, because me and my mate actually rolled that one out. I think Mephiston got them down to about 20 Gretchin or something before he died.

Or was it that he only killed 20 gretchin.. hmm..

Darkvoidof40k wrote:

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Darkvoidof40k wrote:But as I said before, Mephiston would stomp Kharn. Sure, he's a great warrior, but it's not like he's gonna survive (in the physical sense, atleast) if he gets hit by some dude with more power than a two-hundred-mile-per-hour train in his fists.

He got run over by a Land Raider and lived. Besides, that 200 MPH train-fist would be powered by psychic energy, which we all know Khorne keeps his champion safe from.

Once again, I point out that as that Psychic power that ups Mephiston's strength is directed at himself, and not at Kharn, it has no direct affect on Kharn, hence Khorne cannot protect him from/stop it. It's the fists he's got to dodge.

As I don't have the Blood Angels Codex, I can't definitely say that you are wrong, but I'd imagine that the Sanguine Sword works similarly to the Gk power Hammerhand, i.e. infusing yourself with warp energy and then lash out with said warp energy to smash people. Otherwise Mephiston would smash his own weapons and/or hands to pieces every time he hits someone, as neither sword or Meph's fists can take the power with which he'd hit things.

Eh, well apparently he can.

Although, the S10 power always was a bit 'meh' in my opinion. Sure, it's totally awesome, but it just seems silly that a Librarian can go around opening up metal boxes and whatnot.

Although, the S10 power is actually something to do with the sword itself, almost like another version of the Force Weapons' power.

Darkvoidof40k wrote:Although, the S10 power is actually something to do with the sword itself, almost like another version of the Force Weapons' power.

...which Khârn is immune to...

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Darkvoidof40k wrote:Although, the S10 power is actually something to do with the sword itself, almost like another version of the Force Weapons' power.

...which Khârn is immune to...

He's immune to the actual Force Weapon power from the main rulebook, and as this is an altogether separate power and the force-weapon bit is purely descriptive. The actual effects are to have the Librarian's attacks strike at S10.

Darkvoidof40k wrote:

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Darkvoidof40k wrote:Although, the S10 power is actually something to do with the sword itself, almost like another version of the Force Weapons' power.

...which Khârn is immune to...

He's immune to the actual Force Weapon power from the main rulebook, and as this is an altogether separate power and the force-weapon bit is purely descriptive. The actual effects are to have the Librarian's attacks strike at S10.

I'm not saying that he'd be immune to the power on table-top, just that he'd be fluff-wise. There's no question about it that he'd be smashed on table-top.

So, essentially what you're saying is.. that we've been agreeing the whole time?

Eh, Mephiston doesn't even need Psychic powers to stomp on Kharns face.

But to be honest, I don't think that any Space Marine, let alone most of the Primarchs, should have more than I6, ever. It's just unimaginally fast once you get to that point.