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Man took me forever to remember his name;

Ollanious Pious

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ollanius_Pius





I wish I could find that motivation poster. It had a close up picture of a guardsman and said something to the effect of;

"Imagine walking into a starship of horrors and chaos. Finally, after walking through halls of death and losing all your friends....you walk into to see your Emperor, your GOD lying at Horus's feet bleeding to death. Do you run away? No, you charge and hold the fething line, like an Imperial Guardsmen"

oops, they just looked chaosy with the black armour and all

I only heard that it was a guardsman who sacrificed himself, not a termie...

Also, in the BA codex it says Sanguinius dented the armor of horus which was the only way horus was beaten, but most sources say that Horus beat down the emperor, the the guardsman came and died, the the big E psycicly killed horus. How would the dent matter against pyscics, especially the emperors psycic powers?

obviously sangy made/put a plot hole in horus's armour :p

DerangdFlamingo wrote:obviously sangy made/put a plot hole in horus's armour :p

Oh that was ice my good man


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theduncan wrote:oops, they just looked chaosy with the black armour and all

I only heard that it was a guardsman who sacrificed himself, not a termie...

Also, in the BA codex it says Sanguinius dented the armor of horus which was the only way horus was beaten, but most sources say that Horus beat down the emperor, the the guardsman came and died, the the big E psycicly killed horus. How would the dent matter against pyscics, especially the emperors psycic powers?

well armour can still protect you from psychic powers right like imagine you get hit by a thunderbolt and your wearing a suit of armour Itd have to corrode / break through the armour to damage you right ?, so im guessing the dent / scratch Sanguinius made was were the emperor channelled his psychic energy and broke through Horus's armour.

A reasonable theory, until you notice that Horus isn't wearing a helmet.

doesnt Khorne give his followers anti magic protection ?, and with horus being the "chosen" champion of chaos undivided Im sure Khorne along with the other 3 gods would squeeze all the juice they could into him without turning him into a spawn.

Gus_Papas wrote:A reasonable theory, until you notice that Horus isn't wearing a helmet.

Best counter ever. Sigged.

My personal theory is that ol' sangy sacrificing himself didn't actually harm horus but the devotion and love shown gave the emperor +1 rage and +1 warp power which was just the edge he needed to WTFBBQ horus's soul.

Hehe, thanks purplefood

Why did they change it to a custodes then a terminator? especially when they have

AgeOfEgos wrote:Man took me forever to remember his name;

Ollanious Pious

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ollanius_Pius

LEEEEOOOOORRRRYYYYY JEEEENNNKKKIINNNSSS!!!!

The eye symbol is actually something the Emperor granted Horus. When Horus was declared Warmaster the Emperor declared him to be "the Emperor's Vigilance and the Eye of Terra". Horus took the title to heart apparently and depicted it everywhere he could.

I've always thought it looked quite...Chaos-like, to be honest.

Gibbsey wrote:Why did they change it to a custodes then a terminator? especially when they have

AgeOfEgos wrote:Man took me forever to remember his name;

Ollanious Pious

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ollanius_Pius

LEEEEOOOOORRRRYYYYY JEEEENNNKKKIINNNSSS!!!!

ChronoCupcake wrote:This really begs the question if sangunius was psychic and knew he just had a to put a dent / scratch in horus's armour for The Emperor to be able to kill him, why didn't just fly in the room throw his sword at horus and fly out ?

A 10 foot human would have a massive wingspan (to actually be able to be fly), i don't think battle barge corridors make for easy flying

ChronoCupcake wrote:The emperor was busy on earth making the finishing touches on the golden throne which back then was supposed to be an opening to the eldar webway which humans could use, where as Horus was warmaster and had pretty much full control of the imperial army to wage war in the name of the emperor and take worlds on the outermost fringes of imperial territory so they likely wouldn't have seen each other for long periods of time, and its not like Horus would come over to have lunch with his dad once he'd been corrupted.

yer but the emperor is supposed to be the greatest psyker in the universe, with that he should have been able to work of horus has turned at least when he was on his way to terra, giving more time to prepare defenses.

He is the greatest psyker in the universe, its just his faith in his sons not to betray him blinded him that's all. Like a parent trust a child then one day you wake up and you have a knife in your stomach and the kids standing there goin, I WANTED ICE CREAM!!! lol jk but to an extent it sort of like that. completely unexpected to the Emperor whose only fault IMO was trusting the traitor Primarchs with his Grand Plan

I'm pretty sure in that picture Horus has a psychic hood, so wouldn't that give him additional protection from the emperors psychic powers?

The Emperor didn't truly believe - or want to - that his closest son had fallen beyond redemption. He boarded Horus' ship to plead with him to renounce Chaos and re-join him.

He thought that there was still a spark of his old self left and if he could just reach out to him...

But when he slew Sanguinus mortally wounded the Emperor - and ripped apart the Imperial Guardsman who charged him, he saw that Horus was truly gone.

In that instant he drew on a psykic attack of such intensity and magnitude, powered by his anger, sorrow, betrayal and regret, that it caused the four Dark Powers to abandon Horus in terror, for had they remained it would have destroyed them outright also.

In the cruellest of ironies, Horus was himself at the last moment, realising all his treachery, before his body and soul was obliterated by the most powerful psyker in all the galaxy.

tom_gledhill7 wrote:I'm pretty sure in that picture Horus has a psychic hood, so wouldn't that give him additional protection from the emperors psychic powers?

Emperor rolls for perils of the warp with the most powerful psychic attack ever unleashed.... galaxy implodes


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AgeOfEgos wrote:Man took me forever to remember his name;

Ollanious Pious

"Imagine walking into a starship of horrors and chaos. Finally, after walking through halls of death and losing all your friends....you walk into to see your Emperor, your GOD lying at Horus's feet bleeding to death. Do you run away? No, you charge and hold the fething line, like an Imperial Guardsmen"

Im annoyed about that now... I mean whats more impressive a space marine terminator or a guardsmen going all leeroy jenkins and charging Horus?

tom_gledhill7 wrote:I'm pretty sure in that picture Horus has a psychic hood, so wouldn't that give him additional protection from the emperors psychic powers?

what about all the traitor marines, traitor admech, traitor imperial army, thats alot of people planning to attack terra.

and if they were able to mask their thoughts somehow, would the emperor realise something bad was gonna happen when millions of humans suddenly were able to errect psyker barriers around their minds

BluntmanDC wrote:

tom_gledhill7 wrote:I'm pretty sure in that picture Horus has a psychic hood, so wouldn't that give him additional protection from the emperors psychic powers?

what about all the traitor marines, traitor admech, traitor imperial army, thats alot of people planning to attack terra.

and if they were able to mask their thoughts somehow, would the emperor realise something bad was gonna happen when millions of humans suddenly were able to errect psyker barriers around their minds

The emperor was on terra far away fro mthese people, and he wasnt probing their minds all the time. When the heresy started thats when many people chose to join horus, they all wernt plotting the entire time.

BluntmanDC wrote:

tom_gledhill7 wrote:I'm pretty sure in that picture Horus has a psychic hood, so wouldn't that give him additional protection from the emperors psychic powers?

what about all the traitor marines, traitor admech, traitor imperial army, thats alot of people planning to attack terra.

and if they were able to mask their thoughts somehow, would the emperor realise something bad was gonna happen when millions of humans suddenly were able to errect psyker barriers around their minds

Oh yea forsure, but I was just referring to horus's defences during the fight with the emperor and the psychic hood protecting him personally during the fight.

Emperor pschic power - destroy

destroy - declare you are going to destroy anything (can be terrain, fire warriors, stompas, Horus...). Roll a D6. On a roll of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6, take a chosen tool of destruction (hammer, mallet, chainsaw, rocket launcher) and butcher the chosen target. You must provide the weapon of destruction. Ignores psychic tests and perils of the warp and any other crap like that.

Example: You choose to kill a stompa. You roll a D6 and get a 2. You then choose to use C4. You move to a safe distance and explode the C4. You return to the game.

Note: Holes in the board count as impassible terrain.

Gibbsey wrote:

BluntmanDC wrote:

tom_gledhill7 wrote:I'm pretty sure in that picture Horus has a psychic hood, so wouldn't that give him additional protection from the emperors psychic powers?

what about all the traitor marines, traitor admech, traitor imperial army, thats alot of people planning to attack terra.

and if they were able to mask their thoughts somehow, would the emperor realise something bad was gonna happen when millions of humans suddenly were able to errect psyker barriers around their minds

The emperor was on terra far away fro mthese people, and he wasnt probing their minds all the time. When the heresy started thats when many people chose to join horus, they all wernt plotting the entire time.

'these people' were all travelling to terra to destroy it, the heresy didn't just happen, it wasn't suddenly started and all the traitors appeared on terra.

if the emperor's tarot can predict events i would of assumed that the emperor could have worked out what was going on faster.

BluntmanDC wrote:

Gibbsey wrote:

BluntmanDC wrote:

tom_gledhill7 wrote:I'm pretty sure in that picture Horus has a psychic hood, so wouldn't that give him additional protection from the emperors psychic powers?

what about all the traitor marines, traitor admech, traitor imperial army, thats alot of people planning to attack terra.

and if they were able to mask their thoughts somehow, would the emperor realise something bad was gonna happen when millions of humans suddenly were able to errect psyker barriers around their minds

The emperor was on terra far away fro mthese people, and he wasnt probing their minds all the time. When the heresy started thats when many people chose to join horus, they all wernt plotting the entire time.

'these people' were all travelling to terra to destroy it, the heresy didn't just happen, it wasn't suddenly started and all the traitors appeared on terra.

if the emperor's tarot can predict events i would of assumed that the emperor could have worked out what was going on faster.

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Im pretty sure thats no quite how it happned

The Emperor knew what was happening. He hoped it wouldn't come down to the end we all know it did.

Have you guys actually read the Horus Heresy books? All of this is covered in great depth.

Emperors Faithful wrote:

Gibbsey wrote:Why did they change it to a custodes then a terminator? especially when they have

AgeOfEgos wrote:Man took me forever to remember his name;

Ollanious Pious

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ollanius_Pius

LEEEEOOOOORRRRYYYYY JEEEENNNKKKIINNNSSS!!!!

He is now un-retconed. GOOD JOB INTERNET!

Miraclefish wrote:The Emperor knew what was happening. He hoped it wouldn't come down to the end we all know it did.

Have you guys actually read the Horus Heresy books? All of this is covered in great depth.

I'm only on the fourth (flight of the eisenstein) and I'm excited to read Fulgrim, I hear it's awesome.

Happygrunt wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

Gibbsey wrote:Why did they change it to a custodes then a terminator? especially when they have

AgeOfEgos wrote:Man took me forever to remember his name;

Ollanious Pious

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ollanius_Pius

LEEEEOOOOORRRRYYYYY JEEEENNNKKKIINNNSSS!!!!

He is now un-retconed. GOOD JOB INTERNET!

Well he's not un-retconed yet...

also funniest quote i've seen yet

ALL HAIL OLLANIUS PIUS! THE PATRON SAINT OF MEATSHIELDS!

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theduncan wrote:sigged

lol , i didnt come up with it but it's still hilarious

Gibbsey wrote:

Im annoyed about that now... I mean whats more impressive a space marine terminator or a guardsmen going all leeroy jenkins and charging Horus?

No doubt dude, there's respect you have for a mighty Primarch charging a brother Primarch, like two ancient Greek Gods battling out in the heavens.


Then...there's real respect...for basically one of us in a flak jacket....charging a 9 foot tall Chaos possessed super-human with a lightning claw larger than your body.


While the first takes courage, the second takes a degree of zealot like insanity that even enemies need to tip their hat to.