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Rough Riders and fast attack slots.

Well, if they're competing with vehicles, then they don't belong in that list. Rough Riders really need to be in place to compliment the rest of the army (you know, just like every unit ever). They fit best in an infantry based army, and then only compete against Sentinels.

I agree on the models, I own 7 of the attillans and they are just obnoxious. Not only are they not the greatest sculpts GW has ever done but I personally hate models that are a mix of plastic and metal. I'm personally thinking I might invest in a few Death Riders as even though they are resin it solves the 2 issues I have with the GW minins.

Cheers,
~Volkan

Ailaros wrote:Right, the reasons not to take rough riders or ogryn are real, but peripheral. I haven't taken any riders yet because the models are terrible and it's going to take me a while to scratchbuild, while they do actually compete with other useful FA slots (they're good, but not hands down the best in all situations). As for the ogryn, well, there's a reason I scratch-built mine...

i cant wait to see them

Both are a pretty poor substitute to a tricked out Valk or Vendetta in all honesty.

If you absoloutely, positively, *have* to have either option A or B then I would say....what does the rest of your army compose of? Either unit is only as good as the force that it (might) be supporting. If you have a proactive mech/infantry assault force I would recommend Ogryns. If you have a defensive artillery/gunlne army then perhaps RR would suit your army better?

I repeat this phrase so often I may as well put it down in my signiture:

It's not whether a particular *unit* is worth its weight in points, it's whether that unit can *achieve the objective that is was bought for* that makes it worthwhile including.

L. Wrex

here ya go.

Now I've got to break out the GS for the riders...

Duuuuuude. I apppreciate your conversions/battle reports as much as the next poster, but do you reallly, really have to link to your personal website in what amounts to at least 70% of your posts?!

I mean, we get it, you have a website. You don't need to exemplify this is every other post. Why not make a gallery on Dakka itself if your that concerned with getting people to view your stuff?

L. Wrex

ADDENDUM: I don't mean to sound bitchy, and doubly more so considering I haven't the time nor effort to expunge into my own website, but it seems rather much when almost every tactic article contains a link to Ailaros' homepage.

^^ well he has got alot to say and if where him i wouldn't want to type it all out again