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Watched "the runaway bride" this morning. I'm surprised she didn't stay with the doctor and appearantly the new companion will be introduced next episode.
Anung Un Rama wrote:Watched "the runaway bride" this morning. I'm surprised she didn't stay with the doctor and appearantly the new companion will be introduced next episode.
The Tardis chase scene was pure gold.
Don't worry, that is the lovely Mrs Tate that you undoubtably have heard much about and is the companion in the 3rd tennant series.
Watched the Christmas special earlier (Sky+ is great. ) and I wasn't that impressed to be honest.
Spoiler:
The whole thing with the screwdriver being in the shark and the singing was stupid. I also noted how the shark lived over 50 years, what's up with that?
Apart from that it was a decent episode, I guess.
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WARBOSS TZOO wrote:Grab your club, hit her over the head, and drag her back to your cave. The classics are classic for a reason.
It was a largely good and fairly touching episode though. More importantly, it had Katherine Jenkins in it! *swoon*
I think Gambon (as ever) and Matt Smith did particularly good acting in it too.
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Anung Un Rama wrote:Watched "the runaway bride" this morning. I'm surprised she didn't stay with the doctor and appearantly the new companion will be introduced next episode.
The Tardis chase scene was pure gold.
The Chase scene is good, the rest of that one was pretty poor. But you wait for the next Xmas special, Kylie Minogue on a Spaceship Titanic. It's ghastly.
Watch some proper Doctor Who, some of the older releases are cheap enough on DVD now, I recommend the 'Beginings' set which has the very first three stories with Hartnell, and perhaps Daleks Invasion of Earth, Tomb of the Cybermen and the War Games for Troughton, Spearhead from Space, Claws of Axos and The Three Doctors for Pertwee, Pyramids of Mars, Genesis of the Daleks, Brain of Morbius and City of Death for Tom Baker, Earthshock and Caves of Androzani for Davison, Revelation of the Daleks for Colin Baker and Rememberance of the Daleks for McCoy.
If I had to pick just a couple? Just watch Pyramids of Mars and City of Death. If you don't like those there's no hope.
On old Doctor Who, you can't not recommend the Talons of Weng Chiang, that was awesome.
I recall one where the doctor went on holidays on a feudal world too, that was also awesome.
Doctor Who threads seem to crop up fortnightly in OT, but it's all to the good.
Anung: Tennant was good in his first series, but he slides gradually downhill. The next one has some great episodes (especially around the middle of the series) and some stinkers. As it goes on, Russell T Davis's tropes become more exaggerated. The season after that again, has some stellar episodes (won't name them, but they are really good) and a bunch of meh ones. Matt Smith has been more consistent so far, though I wonder what sort of tropes we'll see arriving from Moffat. I think I detect a couple so far, but they don't annoy me as much as RTD ones. It's my favourite TV show by a good margin.
Why blame Tennant for Davis's foibles? The Tennant specials (Planet of the Dead, Waters of Mars), for example, are pretty lame on balance but he's great in them.
Whoops, use of Tennant's name there when I meant Tennant's series gave the wrong impression. I have lots of respect for Tennant and I think when he gets the right script he is fantastic. He also shows more range in what he can do than Smith has so far.
Waters of Mars was great stuff, so was Midnight and the ones in the Library. Planet of the Dead was alright.
RTD put me off watching Doctor Who for nearly an entire year with his ridiculous season enders. (Don't want to spoil stuff for Anung, but you know what I'm talking about.)
Shame, because the penultimate episodes (Utopia, Waters of Mars) were usually balls out awesome.
In your estimation, Waters of Mars was . . . good? Everyone's acting aside, I thought it was absolutely horrible. I thought it addressed a fascinating point about choices and time travel but did so very poorly, managing to invalidate itself. But hey, if you like Waters of Mars the rest of Dr Who must seem like a masterpiece!
Genesis of the Daleks is truely amazing. Favourite Dalek design and 3rd Favourite Doctor. Victory of the Daleks crushed their reputation and destroyed most respect the Daleks have. But this will stop the Constant "Theres always one Dalek left Crap". But there are some good factors to Victory of the Daleks.
Spoiler:
The WW2 Kaki Daleks and the Spitfires in space.
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Manchu wrote:In your estimation, Waters of Mars was . . . good? Everyone's acting aside, I thought it was absolutely horrible. I thought it addressed a fascinating point about choices and time travel but did so very poorly, managing to invalidate itself. But hey, if you like Waters of Mars the rest of Dr Who must seem like a masterpiece!
From my point of view:
Spoiler:
1. Good pacing, pretty good horror story, scary monsters = hooray (I'm massively freaked out by any sort of infection or invasion of self baddies in fiction. The corruption of the different members of the crew gave me severe heebie jeebies. Reminded me of the old Who episode I saw as a kid with the plant that did the same thing and made me scared of the garden for about a week).
2. Interesting moral dilemma for the doctor, handled fairly well. Not perfect, but I did love that he went all meglomaniacal. I thought it was going to be a brilliant ending for the 10th Doctor, with him having to be killed because he'd gone mad with power. Unfortunately, they totally didn't go with that idea.
3. For Dr Who, some pretty good effects. Mars base, mars surface, scary watery monster people, all top notch for low budget Sci Fi. That has it's own appeal, for me.
4. I recently used that episode as inspiration for a class for my year eights on colonising mars, which they absolutely loved.
The bad stuff: Characters weren't THAT well scripted (didn't mind the acting). Ending as you said, very weak (common problem for RTD). Especially that it all happened anyway- apparently the two survivors didn't mention the Doctor at ALL, which makes no sense. And yer one's suicide, well, it also made no sense. I was disappointed by that, and the next episode, but I don't let it spoil what was an exciting and tense bit of entertainment with some interesting explorations of the Doctor's meglomania along the way. (I'm particularly interested in that interpretation of the Doctor, see, so I was happy to see it on screen.) For me, the real turds of that series are the last two episodes, which were so bad they made me angry.
@DaBoss: I agree with all of your praises (save "scary monsters"; they were pretty dumb IMO) but still think the bad--where your assessment also matches mine--greatly overwhelms the good.
If you like the subject of Mars colonisation, let me recommend the hard scifi novel Red Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson.
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I'm quite happy with my autographed MANUSCRIPT copy of RM.
As for the shark in the christmas special living over 50 years ...
Sharks on earth tend to die only because something eats them (or just parts of them and throws the rest back in to die). They don't get much in the way of diseases (and it didn't seem to be in much threat from OTHER predators in that show).
I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
Howard A Treesong wrote:The Chase scene is good, the rest of that one was pretty poor. But you wait for the next Xmas special, Kylie Minogue on a Spaceship Titanic. It's ghastly.
I actually liked the whole episode. Big monster, random destruction of property, Tennant being awesome ("Don't let the man with the Sonic device near the soundsystem"). The Tardis chase scene was just something I wish to see more of. Working with the fact that he has a spaceship which is incredibly powerful, but looks like a Police Box.
Howard A Treesong wrote:Watch some proper Doctor Who, some of the older releases are cheap enough on DVD now, I recommend the 'Beginings' set which has the very first three stories with Hartnell, and perhaps Daleks Invasion of Earth, Tomb of the Cybermen and the War Games for Troughton, Spearhead from Space, Claws of Axos and The Three Doctors for Pertwee, Pyramids of Mars, Genesis of the Daleks, Brain of Morbius and City of Death for Tom Baker, Earthshock and Caves of Androzani for Davison, Revelation of the Daleks for Colin Baker and Rememberance of the Daleks for McCoy.
If I had to pick just a couple? Just watch Pyramids of Mars and City of Death. If you don't like those there's no hope.
I'm not sure if I want to start watching the old show. There's so much other stuff on my to-watch list. My brother is currently watching them, but I still want to watch the whole old Turtles cartoon at some point and there is always so much new stuff I have to keep up with. (Season 2 of The Brave and the Bold is great!)
Da Boss wrote:Anung: Tennant was good in his first series, but he slides gradually downhill. The next one has some great episodes (especially around the middle of the series) and some stinkers. As it goes on, Russell T Davis's tropes become more exaggerated. The season after that again, has some stellar episodes (won't name them, but they are really good) and a bunch of meh ones. Matt Smith has been more consistent so far, though I wonder what sort of tropes we'll see arriving from Moffat. I think I detect a couple so far, but they don't annoy me as much as RTD ones. It's my favourite TV show by a good margin.
Saw episode 301 yesterday, that's the oneTerry Prachtet complained about, with the hospital on the moon. And I have to say, yes, it is kinda stupid, but I still like the show. Mostly because of the Doctor though. It's really his character that pulls me back in, at least if there are no Daleks around, who are a riot every time. Yes, a lot of the show is over the top and goofy and I like that. I have seen enough "serious" Sci-Fi in the last few years. I tried to watch TNG, I saw all 5 seasons of Bab 5 and I'm watching Firefly again with a friend. Those are all Sci-Fi shows more grounded in reality and science and not just "well, there's a force field around it, duh" but that's exactly what I came to like about the show. The Doctor's just awesome in everything he does and I guess I could get used to the new companions. And yes, it does relie a lot on Deus-Ex-Machina, but so far, none were as stupid as the one in the end of Fable 2.
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jargonmultiplier wrote:Tom Baker VS Tennant anyone?
Tennant easily
Heretic!
Meh Baker had a fantastic voice but lacked the passionate chaos bubbling under the surface of Tennants doctor
how many Tom Baker episodes have you watched? because from that responce i don't think you have seen many, Tom Baker Doctor's was energy, chaos and joy
Waaagh_Gonads wrote:I guess for the reason of continuity/sanity Dr Who should be categorised into the Old, long running Dr Who series and the new Dr Who Series.
Apart from a regenerating main character, his vehicle and some of the villains it is a completely different show, for a different era.
I don't really think thats true or fair, each regenration of the Doctor has a very different feel and a very different show, William Hartnell's show is as different to Jon Pertwee's show as Jon Pertwee's era is to the most recent regenerations (with the difference in themes between the Christopher Eccleston and Matt Smith being massive)
As of now i would have to say that Tom Baker, Paul McGann (his radio plays are amazing) and Matt Smith are my top three, with David Tennant fighting to get on the podium. The new christmas special was very engrossing, a true who episode.
Lord-Loss wrote:Watched the Christmas special earlier (Sky+ is great. ) and I wasn't that impressed to be honest.
Spoiler:
The whole thing with the screwdriver being in the shark and the singing was stupid. I also noted how the shark lived over 50 years, what's up with that?
1. although taken to a bit over the top, vocal resonance with crystal is very much possible
2. maybe you don't know much on the animal kingdom, maybe looking up sharks would help (some are believed to have lifespans over 100 years), as long as they are good at what they do and aren't killed by human hunters they are very long lived, add this to the fact that these aren't Earth sharks so don't have to follow Earth rules.
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BBC Worldwide, the BBC's commercial arm, has today launched a new channel on YouTube offering vintage video clips from Doctor Who.
The Classic Doctor Who channel features a mixture of classic clips from the series and exclusive previews of forthcoming Doctor Who DVD releases.
The YouTube channel will run in conjunction with the Classic Doctor Who Twitter page (@classicdw) managed by 2entertain - the DVD publishing business fully acquired by Worldwide last year - to enable fans to more easily discuss vintage Doctor Who.
"We're really looking forward to giving Classic Doctor Who its own home on YouTube," said Jo Warren, Worldwide's head of UK & Ireland sales.
"It will be a great space for fans to discuss Classic Who - we're launching with some fantastic clips and we'll be regularly adding to the collection!"
Classic Doctor Who brand manager Dan Hall added: "I'm delighted to join forces with our digital team and YouTube. This is an exciting new way to deliver content for our net-hungry market."
From today, YouTube users will be able to browse more than 45 video clips dating back to Doctor Who's very first episode, including footage from Meglos, the four-part series originally broadcast in 1980 with Tom Baker as the Doctor. A new Doctor Who Meglos DVD boxset will be released by 2entertain on January 10.
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I'm a huge fan of the new series - the mini-episode Time Crash even inspired me to look into the classic Who episodes. Haven't seen much yet (read: anything past the second doctor) but I loved William Hartnell as the First Doctor. Most memorable moment for me was when you look at him, an aged old man with a cane, beating the snot out of a would-be assassin and throwing him out a window. And from what I've read, he's the only Doctor who died of old freaking age.
In terms of the new series, I think I enjoyed Tennant's Doctor over Smith. Not that Smith isn't an excellent choice for a Doctor, but I really enjoyed Tennant's great enthusiasm and spirit throughout his three series.
And at the OP: series 3 and 4 have some real gems in them. Blink was very well-done, Gridlock has a shocking, heartwrenching ending, and the three-part finale (Utopia, the Sound of Drums, and Last of the Time Lords) is really quite epic. Most of series 4 is excellent as well, and Tennant and Tate have a great dynamic together. I think one of my favorite lines was from (I believe) The Unicorn and the Wasp:
(Doctor is miming shaking something, as he's been poisoned and a key ingredient will save him)
Donna: Shake...milk...shake...milk...milkshake? Harvey Wallbanger?
Doctor: Harvey Wallbanger?! How is that one word?!
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I like matt smith, but my favorite is David Tennant. His acting skills are amazing and he plays the doctor really well, his doctor was quite erractc, but he played that quite clevarly.
Amy pond sucks. Her only redeeming quality is herlooks. She can't act, she causes more problems than she soklves, and she always gets in the way.
Locclo wrote:. I think one of my favorite lines was from (I believe) The Unicorn and the Wasp:
(Doctor is miming shaking something, as he's been poisoned and a key ingredient will save him)
Donna: Shake...milk...shake...milk...milkshake? Harvey Wallbanger?
Doctor: Harvey Wallbanger?! How is that one word?!
I loved when he was teacher her to fly the TARDIS:
DW: Be careful, you're getting too close to the eighties!
Dona: What am I gonna do, put a dent in them?
DW: Well somebody did!
The new Christmas special was fantastic. So glad it only aired a day later in Canada. Dumbledore was amazing as the Scrooge character and I thought that it was good of them to try not to fix everything with the sonic screwdriver the whole time.
The episode was rather touching too, I loved when the painting changed back and forth.
"The girl in the fireplace", the episode with Queen Victoria and the werewolf, "Blink" and the last three episodes of the third series are my favorites.
I -censored by the Inquisition- hate "Blink". That was THE scariest Dr. Who episode I have seen. Even re-watching it freaks me out. Ugh. The Crash of the Byzantine was less scary, but still a fantastic episode. Its fair to say that the Stone Angels are by far my favourite creatures of the Whoniverse.
On a slightly different note, have you seen any Torchwood Anung Un Rama? If not, I'd heartily recommend it.
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I loved Girl in the Fireplace too, and Blink. Silence in the Library was also pretty good. That's why I was so excited when I found out Moffat was taking over Doctor Who. I think he likes a lot of the same things I like, his main weakness is his female characters.
Haven't seen Torchwood yet. My brother said it's not that good though I do want to see it just for more of Jack Harkness. Are there a lot of crossovers? Should I watch it parallel to Doctor Who?
How's Sarah Jane Adventures?
) and I wasn't that impressed to be honest. 
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