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theduncan wrote:S7 < AV14

Yes, but there is side armor, and very big side armor at that, which I can be guaranteed to see if I deploy my AT units at opposite corners.

Not to mention, my railguns could take out both very easily, while the Missile Pods take out the trukk and kans..... right?

The B-wagons probably will last a turn unless I get lucky, but there's now way he'll reach my side of the table before he gets wrecked... I hope.

Ailaros wrote:

Do NOT give him stealth suits. Those things are MEAN against hordes when used correctly.

Yeah, because paying 30pts for a single wound t3 model is great

Jabbdo wrote:

Ailaros wrote:

Do NOT give him stealth suits. Those things are MEAN against hordes when used correctly.

Yeah, because paying 30pts for a single wound t3 model is great

And a special rule that doesn't work in the range you can actually fire your gun...

theduncan wrote:HQ
Big Mek w/ 3 grot oilers, warbike - 90
Big Mek w/ 3 grot oilers, warbike - 90

Troops
12 grots, 1 runtherd - 46
12 grots, 1 runtherd - 46
12 grots, 1 runtherd - 46
13 grots, 1 runtherd - 49
13 grots, 1 runtherd - 49
13 grots, 1 runtherd - 49

Fast Attack

Heavy Support
Flash Gitz x10 w/ blastas - 300
Flash Gitz x10 w/ blastas - 300
Flash Gitz x10 w/ blastas, Badrukk - 435

Gitz will kill themselves w/ Gets Hot!
Badrukk is worthless.
Grots will run like hell.
Big Meks on warbikes - wtf?
With grot oilers in case all those vehicles break down .

Your list made me laugh something fierce. I was JUST about to say FlashGitz CAN do damage....and then realized how you loaded them. Very nicely done
And Im glad Im not the only one that finds Badrukk a waste of points (sucks because his fluff makes him such a badass)

KingCracker wrote:

theduncan wrote:HQ
Big Mek w/ 3 grot oilers, warbike - 90
Big Mek w/ 3 grot oilers, warbike - 90

Troops
12 grots, 1 runtherd - 46
12 grots, 1 runtherd - 46
12 grots, 1 runtherd - 46
13 grots, 1 runtherd - 49
13 grots, 1 runtherd - 49
13 grots, 1 runtherd - 49

Fast Attack

Heavy Support
Flash Gitz x10 w/ blastas - 300
Flash Gitz x10 w/ blastas - 300
Flash Gitz x10 w/ blastas, Badrukk - 435

Gitz will kill themselves w/ Gets Hot!
Badrukk is worthless.
Grots will run like hell.
Big Meks on warbikes - wtf?
With grot oilers in case all those vehicles break down .

Your list made me laugh something fierce. I was JUST about to say FlashGitz CAN do damage....and then realized how you loaded them. Very nicely done
And Im glad Im not the only one that finds Badrukk a waste of points (sucks because his fluff makes him such a badass)

Thank you, I do my worst.

30 gitz fire, 5 get hot, several take wounds (2)
and the next turn (3)
and the next turn (2)
and the next turn (3)
and the next turn (2)
and the next turn (3)

By turn 6, 15 gitz will be wounded by their own failguns .

NeCrotic wrote:Give him this and laugh:

Commander Shas El, multitracker, blacksun filter, target lock :63

Commander Shas El, multitracker, blacksun filter, target lock :63

Crisis, Shas vre, multitracker, blacksun filter, target lock.: 48

Crisis, Shas vre, multitracker, blacksun filter, target lock.: 48

Crisis, Shas vre, multitracker, blacksun filter, target lock.: 48

Sniper: 80

xv88, Shas Vre : 80

xv88, Shas Ui: 70

500points give him 5 useless suits, and fills all the HQ and Elite slots, and You are filling all his heavy support choises.
This force him to take only fast attack and troop.

love this! you also give him a ton of KPs that you can play off of!

The idea of making each others list is a fun idea, i like it, but why do you get to make less of his list? Is there a reason behind that?

Sageheart wrote:

NeCrotic wrote:Give him this and laugh:

Commander Shas El, multitracker, blacksun filter, target lock :63

Commander Shas El, multitracker, blacksun filter, target lock :63

Crisis, Shas vre, multitracker, blacksun filter, target lock.: 48

Crisis, Shas vre, multitracker, blacksun filter, target lock.: 48

Crisis, Shas vre, multitracker, blacksun filter, target lock.: 48

Sniper: 80

xv88, Shas Vre : 80

xv88, Shas Ui: 70

500points give him 5 useless suits, and fills all the HQ and Elite slots, and You are filling all his heavy support choises.
This force him to take only fast attack and troop.

love this! you also give him a ton of KPs that you can play off of!

The idea of making each others list is a fun idea, i like it, but why do you get to make less of his list? Is there a reason behind that?

He was just bawling about how Tau have way more pointless units than orks
...this match not going to end well for me but I do got some stuff up my sleeve.

i must say Tau do have more pointless units and upgrades than orks haha.

i mean if you play your cards right im sure you can pull out a win haha. he cant make your list that bad and you can sure make his list really awful.

to make it fairier thou i would have made it either both make equal point lists for the other person, or you make 1000 points of his life. having only a third of his list gives him way too much of an advantage.

The worst ork list half is nowhere near the worst half of a Tau list... so that is why we split it like that.

Yeah, Tau have some of the most useless units from what I understand. Such as crisis suits with no guns. Lol.

And Aun'va which can make your army run away... and etherials which are the cheaper ticket to losing.

Remember to post a BR.

... we just had the game, but it isn't battle-report worthy.

It was seize ground-pitched battle, and I had first turn.

He seized the initiative, and then preceded to roll incredibly (this was beyond insane), well, taking out ALL of my crisis suits.
On my turn, I failed to do anything except cause 1 wound to a deffkopta. (and everything was within range, and my fire warriors rapid-fired)

At that point, there was no way I could ever win, so I stopped right there.

We're going to probably do it again this weekend, and hopefully the dice gods will decide to be even.

15 lootas shoot how many shots?

45 shots, rolling.

.

I was just upset I never got the chance to shoot at the ethereal

I count... 44 dice

Nah, the main problem was his kill-kannons hit dead on (and 1 scattered and rolled snake eyes for scatter). They killed most of the suits, and the ones they didn't kill ran off of the table (including my commander with his Ld 7.)

Then on my turn, he had his nobs and deffkoptas in my face, and I couldn't touch them...

The next turn would be a bloody assault, and the third turn would be clean up, and taking out what I had in reserve.

The Bringer wrote:I count... 44 dice

Nah, the main problem was his kill-kannons hit dead on (and 1 scattered and rolled snake eyes for scatter). They killed most of the suits, and the ones they didn't kill ran off of the table (including my commander with his Ld 7.)

Then on my turn, he had his nobs and deffkoptas in my face, and I couldn't touch them...

The next turn would be a bloody assault, and the third turn would be clean up, and taking out what I had in reserve.

you also forgot the deffrollas that you so kindly put on my battlewagons

TheCapm wrote:

The Bringer wrote:I count... 44 dice

Nah, the main problem was his kill-kannons hit dead on (and 1 scattered and rolled snake eyes for scatter). They killed most of the suits, and the ones they didn't kill ran off of the table (including my commander with his Ld 7.)

Then on my turn, he had his nobs and deffkoptas in my face, and I couldn't touch them...

The next turn would be a bloody assault, and the third turn would be clean up, and taking out what I had in reserve.

you also forgot the deffrollas that you so kindly put on my battlewagons

Bringer, I thought I warned you about deffrolla battlewagon - they can't go wrong .

Yeouch. You should of nerfed the Ork build more. Giving your friend a deffrolla was a pretty big mistake, as those are arguably the best vehicle upgrade in the codex(possibly the game)


Better luck next weekend, I hope you do better. I wish my scatter rolls where that good. I was rolled scatter so badly, a boomgun shot its self.

The problem wasn't really the deffrolla, he didn't even get near my little gunline… and the reason I gave him two battlewagons with everything because I was planning on taking them out turn 1 (which evidently didn’t happen).

After the game, we both realized something wrong that we did, and it would have drastically changed the results of the first turn. Instead of killing all my suits, he would have killed 1 and wounded 2 others… So I could have actually hit back with near full-force… ah well. We’ll go at it again hopefully.

EDIT - I find disruption pods the best vehicle upgrade. 5 points, 4+ obscured save almost always.

Yea, my brothers g/f plays Tau, and he was telling me about the disruption field. Total score there. Shoot Ive gotta pay 50pts to get something that can do that

3 x stealth suit squads or mono-suit XV8 with TL-flamers

and sorry don't know the cost of the sniper drones.

Use up the Tau elite and heavy slots with the junkiest things you can. That would leave him 1000 pts to build effective army out of troop and FA slots with his two hqs.