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An army based on a WW2 army no problem with that.
but if you don't do it correctly then don't call it a WW2 army .


I have a strong dislike for chumps who would get offended by a Nazi symbol on a toy soldier. how utterly pathetic.

Ailaros wrote:
Yeah, what?


That's generalissimo SIR to you!

What an impressive array of medals. Mr. Dada must be AT LEAST as big a hero and consummate gentleman as General Gadafi, if not more...

The only problem is that they never age well...

Agreed. I actually felt a little bad for him what with how far through GIS I had to dig before I found a respectable picture. Thankfully, the sympathy did not last very long.

As for the moustache, it's called a Toothbrush, and it was used long before and after hitler. I mean, seriously, does this guy look evil to you?

Oh, it's a fantastic mustache, though I've always wanted a Walrus personally.

Because really, center guy on the top, Adolph Hitler, or Paolo Iashvili?

GASP! He's no Nazi! He's a Georgian!

EDIT: Removed picture spam. Brevity is the spice of life.

The german army, the werhmacht, were not nazis, the iron cross was a german symbol, not a Nazi one. Maxmini sells WWII german heads

winnertakesall wrote:The german army, the werhmacht, were not nazis, the iron cross was a german symbol, not a Nazi one. Maxmini sells WWII german heads

Hey my friend got told to leave a GW store for wearing his grandad's Iron Cross. You can never underestimate the ridiculousness of GW staff when it comes to things like this. =/

Wyrmalla wrote:

winnertakesall wrote:The german army, the werhmacht, were not nazis, the iron cross was a german symbol, not a Nazi one. Maxmini sells WWII german heads

Hey my friend got told to leave a GW store for wearing his grandad's Iron Cross. You can never underestimate the ridiculousness of GW staff when it comes to things like this. =/

Prolly because folks that wear medals,symbols that they did not earn are [Mod Edit - Language people, language!]

Jubear wrote:

Wyrmalla wrote:

winnertakesall wrote:The german army, the werhmacht, were not nazis, the iron cross was a german symbol, not a Nazi one. Maxmini sells WWII german heads

Hey my friend got told to leave a GW store for wearing his grandad's Iron Cross. You can never underestimate the ridiculousness of GW staff when it comes to things like this. =/

Prolly because folks that wear medals,symbols that they did not earn are [Mod Edit - Language people, language!]

Err no need to be offensive. Its all he that he has left of his grandad.¬¬

Go ahead, that's what I did.

I think its up to you I personally like the german camo and it would look impressive with IG.

If you are wanting to have an army with a WW1 look and feel I would recommend buying Death Korps Of Krieg

I wouldn't have an issue playing against your German army, Swastikas or no Swastikas. I've often thought about creating a WWII style German army.

kizzdougs wrote:I wouldn't have an issue playing against your German army, Swastikas or no Swastikas. I've often thought about creating a WWII style German army.

Swatikas might be going a bit far. I dont think hobby game shops would allow you to play them with a swastika.

But I dont see why it would be bad to have a German style army. It would be cool to make your tanks look similar to the Panzars of WW2.

Look. Keep in mind that for every one person who gets in your face about it, probably ten more are going to silently write you off as a jerk forever.

For you to even post the question means that you have reservations about doing it. There is enough fluff symbolism and imagery in 40k for you to create something better.

If you do decide to go with a Nazi themed army where do you draw the line? If you model enemy bodies on your tanks or objective markers, now they’re Jews. If you have factories or dirt hills on the table now they’re gas chambers and mass graves. It goes on and on with the symbolism.

Remember it’s just a game and it’s for fun. I don’t think you would want to offend anyone and you probably would. Some tournaments may not even allow that army to enter that army (I know two around here locally that wouldn’t).

Aside from gaming with it you don’t want to be known behind your back as that @** with the Nazi army. As with everything else in life that theme choice of your army will reflect on you as a person. Also If you ever decide to sell that army you have eliminated a lot of potential buyers.

One last thing is that if you really have that itch to have a Nazi army they are a lot of historical games and mini lines out there that will scratch that itch just fine.

There is a lot more to your decision then what’s on surface and you will have to live with it.

That’s just my two cents.

Instead of WW2, why not go for a late WW1 German them? Officers with pig sticker helmets and no swastikas needed

I voted for you to go ahead and do it. It is exactly what I am doing with my all Steel Legion models IG. Needless to say, it is proving to be quite an expensive task, but I'm only about 100 or so Lasgun models short of what I need for the full FoC with infantry platoons. Now all I need are about 30 more Chimeras to mech it all up.

In 40K, I'd agree with the unanimous "no swastika" sentiment. You're painting you're army as futuristic one with influence from a historical army.
If this was a historical game, then it'd be no problem, since you are aiming for representing something from the past. That's my view, at least.

Unless you're including the symbols (swaztika/iron cross) I'm fairly sure nobody would even be able to recognize it as WWII German. It would simply be another one of many grey-green IG armies.

So what have you decided.

GamzaTheChaos wrote:An army based on a WW2 army no problem with that.
but if you don't do it correctly then don't call it a WW2 army .


I have a strong dislike for chumps who would get offended by a Nazi symbol on a toy soldier. how utterly pathetic.

Some of those chumps had their grandparents turned into soap by soldiers wearing Nazi symbols.

if you havent decided just yet, maybe an Afrika Korps theme german army??

stupid image link didnt work...

Devastator wrote:its pretty much this:
SS=bad
Wehrmacht=good

Ipersonaly wouldn't mind, if painted really well I would probably pinch some of the ideas for me own Guard army

Not sure why people get offended by the Iron Cross as its a medal of bravery is it not? Its been around for as long as the Victora Cross if not longer. Any way doesn't the SM Black Templers use the same cross as its chapter symbol?

Go for it, the Wehrmacht were like other armys of that time, professional solders. Its not their fault that they were on the wrong side. Give them their gray uniform which I have to admit is way better looking then any other uniform in use at that time.

The SS...hmm...thats an iffy subject... Maybe use them as Commisars, replayce the swastika with say the Aquila if your painting skills are good, or just have them with a red arm band.

Black Templars use the Maltese cross in line with their crusader imagery.

My honest opinion is don't do a German WW1/2 themed IG army, and not because you might offend anyone, but because so many other people seem to do them. Branch out, be creative, there are plenty of other historical periods colours and style to copy and adapt.

If you want to do it, then do it. It could be a wonderful looking army.

The two caveats I would place on that though would be not using swastikas or the SS bolts. Not because squiggly lines on toy soldiers are offensive as another poster said, but because those symbols do still mean something awful to a lot of people, and for very good reason.

Build a German 'themed' army? hmmm...

Kubelwagons
Half Tracks.
88's as basilisks/Hydras.
Tigers/Panthers as Russes.
'98 rifles for the Troops.
Helmet swaps.


But if you are not going to do things properly, then sure, paint your guard in some drab monotone/camoflage scheme

For clarity my vote is: Sod the uniform shenanigans converts some cool looking stuff up.

I say do it! People need to realize while the Nazi army were the bad guys, it's still a major part of history. So what if you make an army that resemble the Nazis? As long as you don't have huge Swastikas I'm sure no one will complain.

Alternatively:

Paint up some 28mm german soldiers in the colours of the wermacht, SS, Heer or whatever.

This will probably be more appropriate as a gesture of remembrance rather than painting big handed, big headed, flash-light wielding space troopers.

DickBandit wrote:I say do it! People need to realize while the Nazi army were the bad guys, it's still a major part of history. So what if you make an army that resemble the Nazis? As long as you don't have huge Swastikas I'm sure no one will complain.

If you want to learn or teach about history, historical games would seem to be a more appropriate genre.

It would just be wrong and tasteless to do it and really shouldn't be done, just like no one should painting an Al Jolson imperial guard army.

I want to do a WWII Italian themed army. If I'm ever doing bad I can just declare that I'm now on my opponent's side. Then stand there eating gelatto until they leave in disgust. Victory!

I agree with most people that you should just do it. Either do a German themed army based from some other era or go with a DKoK themed army, which was based on the WW2 Germans. As everyone else said, as long as you dont use the Swastika, no one is gonna be offended.

To all these nay sayers, how is it wrong and tasteless? Is it just becose of what the army of that time did or did not do, or is it some thing deeper?
You could say that an IG army fully loaded to the gunwales with flamer weaponry, that is based on the us pacific army could be just as tasteless. A flamer is a terror weapon and how prolithicly the US army used them could be tantamount to war crimes, yet no one complains about that as they were the victors.