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You can seriously use spray primer outdoors in -20 Celsius? I don't mind the cold, but I thought the cold made spraying impossible. I will dart in and out of my condo all winter if this is true.

You can spray n the cold, but in my experiance it kind of makes the primer a little beady on the models

whoadirty wrote:You can seriously use spray primer outdoors in -20 Celsius? I don't mind the cold, but I thought the cold made spraying impossible. I will dart in and out of my condo all winter if this is true.

You can spray pretty well in the cold (-20), Except if you have a lot to spray... then you should wear a coat

Done it with a T-shirt I do not recommend

When we lived in a tiny flat we used to put an old tablecloth over the top of the cooker and use the extractor fan hood to suck away the fumes. It worked well, but is only advisable if you are sure the whole top of the cooker is covered. Also, it helps if you have a crap apartment that you don't care about accidentally spray painting.

Skinnattittar wrote:Short, quick sessions in a well ventilated room. If you have a bathroom fan, doing a small number of models quickly is reasonable, however in general, not advisable. If you do not have access to a well ventilated area, do NOT spray paint. It WILL kill brain cells.

Me? I switched over to airbrushing. It has a high start up cost (about $200, depending on the compressor, brush, setup, etc...), but is safe to use in a box (depending on your mixing agents, paint, and volume), and lets me use just about any paint and color I want!

Dark wrote:I just do it in my room, no matter how cold it is or if it's raining.

I just open my windows wide, turn the fan on and voilá.

I thought the thread was over there, it had me laughing (combination of av/sigs haha)

but this

Ninjakinshu wrote:I live in an army barracks, so I have next to no room to prime, but I found myself a little trick that had me kicking myself in the head that I didnt realize before.

Get a pair of pliers that you wouldn't mind spraying, and clamp 'em on the base of the model, hold it outside a window, and give it a quick hit. Thats how I primed my space wolf models. For a while I just soaked them in Chaos Black paint but it was eating up my paint and taking forever to do.

Is the greatest thing I've heard yet. Truly a goon in a platoon

Jihallah wrote:

Skinnattittar wrote:Short, quick sessions in a well ventilated room. If you have a bathroom fan, doing a small number of models quickly is reasonable, however in general, not advisable. If you do not have access to a well ventilated area, do NOT spray paint. It WILL kill brain cells.

Me? I switched over to airbrushing. It has a high start up cost (about $200, depending on the compressor, brush, setup, etc...), but is safe to use in a box (depending on your mixing agents, paint, and volume), and lets me use just about any paint and color I want!

Dark wrote:I just do it in my room, no matter how cold it is or if it's raining.

I just open my windows wide, turn the fan on and voilá.

I thought the thread was over there, it had me laughing (combination of av/sigs haha)

but this

Ninjakinshu wrote:I live in an army barracks, so I have next to no room to prime, but I found myself a little trick that had me kicking myself in the head that I didnt realize before.

Get a pair of pliers that you wouldn't mind spraying, and clamp 'em on the base of the model, hold it outside a window, and give it a quick hit. Thats how I primed my space wolf models. For a while I just soaked them in Chaos Black paint but it was eating up my paint and taking forever to do.

Is the greatest thing I've heard yet. Truly a goon in a platoon

If it's for my sig, don't worry, I don't put my Necromunda gang, and the gangs of 3 friends (who, as sad as it sounds, suck more than me at painting and modelling) and other stuff unrelated to wargaming

Gunzhard wrote:I prime exclusively with my Airbrush now... (Vallejo Air Grey Primer); and I do it in my apartment.

This is what I'm leaning towards. I already have an airbrush and compressor picked out, now it's just a matter of purchasing.

Paasche Model VL Double Action Airbrush + Paasche D3000R Air Compressor

Nice!

Where do you get the Vallejo Airbrush Primer?

atomsmasher wrote:Where do you get the Vallejo Airbrush Primer?

I find that it sells out rather quickly from most of the major online retailers... so I use either of these depending on who has stock:
thewarstore.com
superherogameland.com
www.warweb.com

DeadGaurd wrote:You can spray n the cold, but in my experiance it kind of makes the primer a little beady on the models

The cold only makes certain primers beady. The P3 primer gets excessively runny in cold weather. Your best bet is probably just to by brush primer.

Depending on what you are painting, acrylic gesso can be wonderful.

I haven't had ANY luck with white gesso (and I've tried three brands) , but Bob Ross black gesso works a treat for me, unless the model has lots of tiny, deep crevices (Spider rider bases with the webs, orc helmets with the breathing holes, etc). Those the gesso can maintain surface tension across the hole and fill up.

Otherwise, a bottle is cheap, and does a great job. It's particularly good for things which you want to paint when partially assembled. You can easily control where the "primer" goes and does not go. Plus, there is no smell, and it cleans up with soap and water.

It comes off a bit easier than good primer, but I have had zero problems with any varnished miniature. It has scraped off some metal models more easily than primer if the model contacts a hard surface, but only before varnishing.