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im2randomghgh wrote:The better answer would be because STOP USING THIS JOKE has the ability to ruin everything and anything he touches, including but not limited to the Earth.

Meh. Not really, This is why I usually believe that posts like this are quite annoying as they have nothing to do with anything.
The Horus Hersey was what made terra what we know of it today. It was originally blue before the horus hersey now its a sadden slag and destroyed image of its former self. ITs a sad ending for the cradle world of humanity. The planet that we once called home was slaughtered by its own race it held.

Yes, that is what it was... immediately after the Horus Heresy.

Ten thousand years later in "modern day" 40k, it's rebuilt to a new glory, a majestic shrine world to the Emperor.

Asherian Command wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:The better answer would be because STOP USING THIS JOKE has the ability to ruin everything and anything he touches, including but not limited to the Earth.

Meh. Not really, This is why I usually believe that posts like this are quite annoying as they have nothing to do with anything.
The Horus Hersey was what made terra what we know of it today. It was originally blue before the horus hersey now its a sadden slag and destroyed image of its former self. ITs a sad ending for the cradle world of humanity. The planet that we once called home was slaughtered by its own race it held.

It was burnt away during the Unification Wars, KNOW YOUR FLUFF!

im2randomghgh wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:The better answer would be because STOP USING THIS JOKE has the ability to ruin everything and anything he touches, including but not limited to the Earth.

Meh. Not really, This is why I usually believe that posts like this are quite annoying as they have nothing to do with anything.
The Horus Hersey was what made terra what we know of it today. It was originally blue before the horus hersey now its a sadden slag and destroyed image of its former self. ITs a sad ending for the cradle world of humanity. The planet that we once called home was slaughtered by its own race it held.

It was burnt away during the Unification Wars, KNOW YOUR FLUFF!

You just made a thread asking how long the average life span of a/the T'au is.
A little bit hipocritical don't you think?

purplefood wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:The better answer would be because STOP USING THIS JOKE has the ability to ruin everything and anything he touches, including but not limited to the Earth.

Meh. Not really, This is why I usually believe that posts like this are quite annoying as they have nothing to do with anything.
The Horus Hersey was what made terra what we know of it today. It was originally blue before the horus hersey now its a sadden slag and destroyed image of its former self. ITs a sad ending for the cradle world of humanity. The planet that we once called home was slaughtered by its own race it held.

It was burnt away during the Unification Wars, KNOW YOUR FLUFF!

You just made a thread asking how long the average life span of a/the T'au is.
A little bit hipocritical don't you think?

The difference is I didn't state any misinformation.

im2randomghgh wrote:The difference is I didn't state any misinformation.

Can you provide a source to prove that you didn't?
GW cannon gets dodgy a lot. There could easily be 2 conflicting sources or they could both be correct and the environmental damage was repaired in between the Unification Wars and the Siege of Terra.
EDIT:
Overall it's not really worth saying people are outright wrong.

purplefood wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:The difference is I didn't state any misinformation.

Can you provide a source to prove that you didn't?
GW cannon gets dodgy a lot. There could easily be 2 conflicting sources or they could both be correct and the environmental damage was repaired inbetween the Unification Wars and the Siege of Terra.

Horus Heresy novels (i.e. Mechanicum, Nemesis.)

The other theory, that it just kinda happened, it here: http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Terra#Geography

im2randomghgh wrote:

purplefood wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:The difference is I didn't state any misinformation.

Can you provide a source to prove that you didn't?
GW cannon gets dodgy a lot. There could easily be 2 conflicting sources or they could both be correct and the environmental damage was repaired in between the Unification Wars and the Siege of Terra.

Horus Heresy novels (i.e. Mechanicum, Nemesis.)

The other theory, that it just kinda happened, it here: http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Terra#Geography

2 conflicting theories...
Possibly started in the Unification Wars then worsened over time and was finished off by Horus...
A combination so to speak...

Answer is, earth was in a bad state from the unification wars, and the horus heresy made worse.

Mr Nobody wrote:Answer is, earth was in a bad state from the unification wars, and the horus heresy made worse.

Let us not forget the 2nd war for the Imperial Palace. (Damn this editor.)

Mr Nobody wrote:Answer is, earth was in a bad state from the unification wars, and the horus heresy made worse.

Good point. It makes sense.

The Emperor starts the job with the Unification wars and the industrialization of Terra in preparation for the Great Crusade, and Horus delivers the final blow to our ecosystem with his invasion.

Monk1junk1 wrote:

BluntmanDC wrote:

jadebullet wrote: Immense heat, or a lack of atmosphere. Both of these things would make the planet incompatible to human life, especially since GW implies that it still has an atmosphere, as well as a large population that walks around unprotected from the elements..

Major fluff error, Terra is a hive city, every planet that has hive cities is an awful hellhole of pollution, waste and deserts, just look at Necromunda. The vast majority of Terran population live in the palace so are protected from the elements, add to the fact that most of population is heavily augmented to perform their work in the administum ( as seen in all the art).

So are there any 'nice' planets in 40k? Because it was to my understanding that every planet had at least one hive city to serve as a Capitol. If there are inhospitable wastelands and jungle death worlds, are there any places in between? you know, a hospitable forest with bunnies? And lemonade? With no undead servitors or wires sticking out of you? That would be nice....

A single hive city has a population of near billions, while a graded agriworld has a population of 15,000 to 1,000,000 a fraction of the size. A large amount of IoM worlds have a single space port/defense area then villages and small towns spread everywhere. IoM has worlds ranging the entire spectum, from dinosaur infested jungle worlds owned by space marine chapters, worlds of cathedrals run by the Ecclesiarchy, to worlds of factorys and thick smoke owned by Mars

I have a question regarding Terra: How long in height and dept goes Terran Hive City?
We know that Imperial Palace is on top of Himalayas ( about 7000 km ) and I really don't know how deep underground they go. I heard stories about libraries so big that you can spent all you life and never see the end of the library ( and average Human in 40k lives about 120 years ).

Brother Coa wrote:I have a question regarding Terra: How long in height and dept goes Terran Hive City?
We know that Imperial Palace is on top of Himalayas ( about 7000 km ) and I really don't know how deep underground they go. I heard stories about libraries so big that you can spent all you life and never see the end of the library ( and average Human in 40k lives about 120 years ).

This is a new tower design in Dubai. The shape can theoretically stay structurally sound at incredible heights. This would be a small spire in 40k.

Brother Coa wrote:I have a question regarding Terra: How long in height and dept goes Terran Hive City?
We know that Imperial Palace is on top of Himalayas ( about 7000 km ) and I really don't know how deep underground they go. I heard stories about libraries so big that you can spent all you life and never see the end of the library ( and average Human in 40k lives about 120 years ).

The Imperial Palace covers nearly the entire northern hemispere, The Palace is divided into Inner and Outer Palace. It is described as "an endless, black hive of forbidden technology and subterranean passages delving deep within the bowels of the planet". The Sanctum Imperialis does not have an accurately described place in fluff.

The Forbidden Fortress is built throughout the mountain range of the Himalayas. A single peak is carved to form the Chamber of the Astronomican.

Also saying the average human life is about 120 years is either very wrong or misleading. The population of the IoM live in vastly different worlds from each other, a citizen of an agri-world will have a life expectancy similar to our own, while a primative human on a feral world will live for 30 at a push and a high ranking member of the Adaptus Terra will live for hundreds of years. Just remember only the rich and powerful live for along time, most humans are either worked to death or give their lives to defend the IoM.

Monk1junk1 wrote:

BluntmanDC wrote:

jadebullet wrote: Immense heat, or a lack of atmosphere. Both of these things would make the planet incompatible to human life, especially since GW implies that it still has an atmosphere, as well as a large population that walks around unprotected from the elements..

Major fluff error, Terra is a hive city, every planet that has hive cities is an awful hellhole of pollution, waste and deserts, just look at Necromunda. The vast majority of Terran population live in the palace so are protected from the elements, add to the fact that most of population is heavily augmented to perform their work in the administum ( as seen in all the art).

So are there any 'nice' planets in 40k? Because it was to my understanding that every planet had at least one hive city to serve as a Capitol. If there are inhospitable wastelands and jungle death worlds, are there any places in between? you know, a hospitable forest with bunnies? And lemonade? With no undead servitors or wires sticking out of you? That would be nice....

Of course, there are paradise worlds, garden worlds, the planets of Ultramar (when they're not getting attacked by Tyranids, Tau, and M'kar the thrice born).

I think when they say the oceans boiled away,they mean to natural surface water.

Propably plenty in caverns beneath the surface that gets chem treated like hell.

Or they harvest oxygen and hydrogen and make water that way,then recycle the hell out of it.

Terra is probably fine to live in,just don't expect to enjoy the country air or green fields any time soon.

Melkhiordarkblade wrote:I think when they say the oceans boiled away,they mean to natural surface water.

Propably plenty in caverns beneath the surface that gets chem treated like hell.

Or they harvest oxygen and hydrogen and make water that way,then recycle the hell out of it.

Terra is probably fine to live in,just don't expect to enjoy the country air or green fields any time soon.

They have all their water brought in from off-world.

Melkhiordarkblade wrote:I think when they say the oceans boiled away,they mean to natural surface water.

Propably plenty in caverns beneath the surface that gets chem treated like hell.

Or they harvest oxygen and hydrogen and make water that way,then recycle the hell out of it.

Terra is probably fine to live in,just don't expect to enjoy the country air or green fields any time soon.

Its possible. Don't forget some of the water was also brought to the other planets. The only earth like planets in sol are the Moons of Saturn, Jupiter and Pluto's moon.

Moon dust can be made into water too.


if you have Hydrogen(from Solar radiation) and oxygen(not incredibly rare) you can make water.

Grey Templar wrote:Moon dust can be made into water too.


if you have Hydrogen(from Solar radiation) and oxygen(not incredibly rare) you can make water.

Yeah but the Imperium just went with the cop-out solution and decided to make the water imported.

who says they need to import water and where is the evidence?


they just reclycle the water they currently have(where it came from is up to debate)

Grey Templar wrote:who says they need to import water and where is the evidence?


they just reclycle the water they currently have(where it came from is up to debate)

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Terra#Geography

hmmmm, seems a little off.


"The oceans boiled away because of the heat from people living there"

now that is wrong and is definitly old fluff.

Grey Templar wrote:hmmmm, seems a little off.


"The oceans boiled away because of the heat from people living there"

now that is wrong and is definitly old fluff.

What. You dont think that with the factories, furnaces oven etc. required to sustain 100,000,000,000,000 people + their body heat would be that hot.

sry for having no question marks, my keyboard is a little off right now.

hot enough to boil water?

hell yeah, it would be impossable to live on a planet with that temperature.


Humans would boil away.

Perhaps evaporate away?

the atmosphere would become water logged and it would be nearly impossable for the water to remain in vapor form.

there would be eternal rain showers with the water evaporating almosty instantly upon hitting the ground.

I think we had this thread once before and came to the conclusion that boiling away the sea's was was pretty much impossible without rendering the planet lifeless so I guess this is under the jurisdiction of the rule of cool.

Grey Templar wrote:hot enough to boil water?

hell yeah, it would be impossable to live on a planet with that temperature.


Humans would boil away.

they have coolants.