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Grey Templar wrote:Abbadon has the marks of all the gods.

therefore, he can't be elevated to Deamonhood as his loyalties are divided.



he remains Astartes by Choice and by circumstance.

Eh, maybe I misunderstood your post but It's possible for Chaos Undivided champions to become Daemon Princes. Lorgar, Perturabo, etc..

Possable, although highly unlikely.


The Primarch's actual nature since falling to Chaos is debatable.

They could just be significantly buffed and not be actual Deamons(except for Magnus and Angron, they are definitly deamons at this point)

You can take an unmarked DP in the CSM codex, ergo undivided princes?

According to a thread I read on this forum I heard of a daemon victory of the GKs,

Apparently, chaos had corrupted a planet, but a small amount of the Sisters of Battle had remained pure due to their faith.

The GKs killed the sisters, defiled their bodies, and smeared they're blood on their armor...then purged the rest of the planet.

Just makes me fething sick.

1-UP wrote:You can take an unmarked DP in the CSM codex, ergo undivided princes?

yes, but someone had to elevate him to Deamonhood.

it's possable to please one of the gods and not bear his mark.

Grey Templar wrote:

1-UP wrote:You can take an unmarked DP in the CSM codex, ergo undivided princes?

yes, but someone had to elevate him to Deamonhood.

it's possable to please one of the gods and not bear his mark.

than it can happen to the Primarch's also then

gpfunk wrote:According to a thread I read on this forum I heard of a daemon victory of the GKs,

Apparently, chaos had corrupted a planet, but a small amount of the Sisters of Battle had remained pure due to their faith.

The GKs killed the sisters, defiled their bodies, and smeared they're blood on their armor...then purged the rest of the planet.

Just makes me fething sick.

Very odd. Not sure what to make of that lol

BeefCakeSoup wrote:

gpfunk wrote:According to a thread I read on this forum I heard of a daemon victory of the GKs,

Apparently, chaos had corrupted a planet, but a small amount of the Sisters of Battle had remained pure due to their faith.

The GKs killed the sisters, defiled their bodies, and smeared they're blood on their armor...then purged the rest of the planet.

Just makes me fething sick.

Very odd. Not sure what to make of that lol

Thank you Matt Ward, yes that is apparently his fluff in the new GK codex.
Not to turn this into a Ward hate thread but I thought I'd add an explanation -

There was a planet in which the entire populace had been turned to chaos. The Grey Knights arrived to purge the planet as usual, but instead of teaming up with a convent of completely pure Sisters of Battle who had resisted corruption, the Knights slaughtered the Sisters, defiled their remains and painted their armour with the Sisters uncorrupted blood. I believe that this gave the Grey Knights some form of protection against some great Chaos Power but don't quote me on that, they then proceeded to purge the rest of the planet of chaos taint.

Basically unless the sisters were willingly killed themselves to help the Knights, Ward has turned the GK from a pure order of glorious protectors of humanity into a band of borderline Chaos space marines who needlessly kill loyal servants of the Emperor and paint their blood on their armour.

On topic, Abbaddon is not aligned to a any Chaos God in particular but worships the Pantheon as a whole. I'm fairly certain that he's spread enough destruction to warrant Daemon Prince but chooses not to become one for several already stated reasons, namely its easier for him to lead his Black Crusades as a non-daemon than as a DP where his power is bound to the Warp. TBH he's already fething powerful as he is, just a massive failure as far as leading his 'End of the Imperium' schemes.

Chaos daemons don't really have victories and loses like we do. They just attack do as much damage as possible until they are inevitably pushed back. Since these attacks rarely weaken them- it's not often a daemon is destroyed and even when it is it's energy is just dispersed so chaos can just make another. Destroying a daemon only really hurts chaos when the daemon had specific knowledge or abilities which usually mean it's much harder to truely kill. Because of this chaos can launch large attacks for what appear to be minor gains because they have no reason not to.