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I’ve been reading fluff about Daemons but I can’t seem find really any victories over the Grey Knights while I have read about the Grey Knights kicking Daemon ass. Any notable Daemonic victories over the Grey Knights anyone know about?
Edit: Plus anything else Chaos Related

Depends on how you look at it, but the First Battle of Armageddon was a phyrric victory for the Grey Knights. While the Grey Knights were able to banish Angron, most of the 100 terminators sent to stop him got curbstomped.

Not really,


If you count a deamonic infestation claiming souls for their god that later gets cleansed. that could be considered a victory.

Grey Templar wrote:Not really,


If you count a deamonic infestation claiming souls for their god that later gets cleansed. that could be considered a victory.

Skulls for the skull throne!

Honestly, even if the daemons lose, they win. Just like orcs. They just wanna kill stuff and spread chaos; which they do a good job of.

It's more the Grey Knight are only sent when you absolutely, positively, have to kill every mother f-ing daemon in the room.

So the Grey Knights are always sent with overwhelming force. In essence, they never fight battles they will lose. Or to put it in other words, they never fight battles they can AFFORD to lose, so they send overwhelming power. Or an Exterminatus.

Any daemon victory would simply result in more Grey Knights being sent, and from the Grey Knight prespective, it's still the same battle. So another way of looking at it is that the Grey Knights don't ADMIT they lose battles to daemons. They just keep the battle going.

Even victories of the daemons are won at a high cost anyway, against the Knights.

Every world that falls to Daemonic infestation = a victory against the Ordo Malleus.

Yeah the 100 grey knight terminators were facing not just angron let us not forget, but also a horde of Greater Daemons, Daemon Princes, Chaos Space Marines, Blood Thirsters, and Bloodletters in the thousands. So they killed all the blood thirsters, all the greater daemons, and all the daemon princes and banished angron? Then the space wolves came in slaughtered the blood letters? Yeah thats what I call a victory.


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Harriticus wrote:Every world that falls to Daemonic infestation = a victory against the Ordo Malleus.

not really, because then the grey knights come and wipe it out.

And keep in mind that psykers can actually damage the metaphysical warp essence of a daemon, not just its physical body. Indeed, there's powers in Dark Heresy that let you do just that, though they're often dangerous to the psyker (moreso than normal psychic powers at any rate).

Melissia wrote:And keep in mind that psykers can actually damage the metaphysical warp essence of a daemon, not just its physical body. Indeed, there's powers in Dark Heresy that let you do just that, though they're often dangerous to the psyker (moreso than normal psychic powers at any rate).

Wait someone can permanently kill a daemon? I thought that can only happen in Supernatural.
If so, then hell yeah.

Deamons can be totally destroyed.

the more powerful the demon the tougher it's warp essence, but yes it is possable.



Eisinhorn obliterated a Deamon that was bound to a Deamonhost. it was totally destroyed, never coming back.


a weak deamon like a bloodletter or Plague bearer is probably really easy to actually destroy.

the main issue with that is that those deamons are just extensions of their god's will and the god can just make another one.



Unaligned deamons that are minor warp entities in and of themselves are the ones that get destroyed and never come back.

Grey Templar wrote:Deamons can be totally destroyed.

the more powerful the demon the tougher it's warp essence, but yes it is possable.



Eisinhorn obliterated a Deamon that was bound to a Deamonhost. it was totally destroyed, never coming back.


a weak deamon like a bloodletter or Plague bearer is probably really easy to actually destroy.

the main issue with that is that those deamons are just extensions of their god's will and the god can just make another one.



Unaligned deamons that are minor warp entities in and of themselves are the ones that get destroyed and never come back.

I hope someone can permanently kill Angron, or Abbaddon.

Abbadon isn't a Daemon. I don't think he's even a Daemon Prince, which is a bit odd considering he's the "Warmaster of Chaos".

Harriticus wrote:Abbadon isn't a Daemon. I don't think he's even a Daemon Prince, which is a bit odd considering he's the "Warmaster of Chaos".

He should be changed to a Daemon Prince in the next Codex , it just dosn't make sence.

blood reaper wrote:

Harriticus wrote:Abbadon isn't a Daemon. I don't think he's even a Daemon Prince, which is a bit odd considering he's the "Warmaster of Chaos".

He should be changed to a Daemon Prince in the next Codex , it just doesn't make sense.

Why should he be a Daemon Prince? He's not 'ascended' to Daemonhood like the Primarchs or many of Chaos' followers have done.

It seems it's actually his choice to avoid doing such.

But why? Why does he not become a Daemonic Warmaster instead of being a mere mortal.

Yes, being a daemon prince would actually make it more difficult for him to do his job as warmaster.

Daemon princes are, well, daemons, and therefor have a hard time staying manifest in reality. But as a normal CSM warmaster, he exists in reality without any problems at all.

There's nothing "mere" or even "mortal" about Abaddon.

He is, for all intents and purposes, the flippin' avatar of Chaos Undivided.

Kanluwen wrote:There's nothing "mere" or even "mortal" about Abaddon.

He is, for all intents and purposes, the flippin' avatar of Chaos Undivided.

yep. basically

By "mere mortal" I simply meant he is not a daemon. He's a Space Marine. An unreasonably powerful one to be sure, but still, a Space Marine. And he specifically chose to be a Space Marine rather than a daemon prince for the reasons I gave above.

Before geting back on topic let me just say this. Becoming a Daemon Prince would probaly change him from failure to awsome Chaos Warmaster. Incressing his Power 10 fold and meening he could be sucsesful in the 14th Black Crusade. It seems everyones saying Daemons causes much more destruction even if they lose.

blood reaper wrote:Before geting back on topic let me just say this. Becoming a Daemon Prince would probaly change him from failure to awsome Chaos Warmaster. Incressing his Power 10 fold and meening he could be sucsesful in the 14th Black Crusade. It seems everyones saying Daemons causes much more destruction even if they lose.

yeah but then he will be vulnerable to grey knights and thats bad.

Making him a daemon prince would force him to have to spend a large amount of energy just to exist in realspace, to say nothing of the vulnerability Daemons have to various things in the Ecclesiarchy's/Inquisition's arsenals.

Just checking, as I don't know the particular fluff in my example, but is there even Daemon Princes of Chaos Undivided? Who elevates them? I think that might be a reason for why Abaddon isn't a DP yet...

Should I ask a Mod to change this into Chaos Undivided disscusion thread. Plus Undivided Daemons Princes are elevated by gaining favour from all the gods.

okay go to your original post and click edit and change the topic name yourself lol. See the title thing and delete it and rename it so.

Why would he want to become a daemon?
Granted it would make him stronger, but every flaw that comes with being a daemon comes crashing down to him with the extra power.

Abbadon has the marks of all the gods.

therefore, he can't be elevated to Deamonhood as his loyalties are divided.



he remains Astartes by Choice and by circumstance.

And not to mention that GK have the most advanced power armor in the galaxy + psychically charged weapons + insane faith.
And they number in thousands unlike the other marines, and thus far they only had victories against daemons.

Thus far being nearly ten thousand years. Whatever defeats they suffer are quickly turned into victories by reinforcements.